RE: Speaking Row and Collumn Titles In Excel
- From: "Mullins, Chris" <Chris.Mullins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 09:25:02 +0100
Mark
I managed to get this feature working using Jaws7.1 on Excel 2003 but it
works in the same way as the Jaws verbosity method having been set to
read both row and column titles. Do you know how to limit the feature
to reading row titles only or column titles only as you navigate the
document?
Cheers
Chris
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-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Mark Stimson
Sent: 02 July 2009 23:34
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Speaking Row and Collumn Titles In Excel
I believe that it works for all Excel programs going back to Excel 2000.
I'm not positive what version of Jaws started working with this, but I
believe it was Jaws 7.
Thanks, Mark
Mark Stimson, Ph.D.
Document Accessibility Specialist
www.DocumentAccessibility.com
www.AccessIngenuity.com
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Behalf Of Mullins, Chris
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 12:51 AM
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Subject: RE: Speaking Row and Collumn Titles In Excel
Mark
Does this functionality exist in earlier versions of Excel?
Chris Mullins
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From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Mark Stimson
Sent: 01 July 2009 21:30
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Speaking Row and Collumn Titles In Excel
Dave, there are few differences between using the Verbosity Menu versus
the
Define Names function. The most notable one is that by actually
inserting a
defined name, you are making the Excel spreadsheet accessible for
everyone.
I teach some accessibility courses to public organizations, and I
encourage
everyone to use this method. This way, visually impaired folks who are
not
that knowledgeable with Jaws verbosity options who end up using the
spreadsheet will find it easy to navigate. Second, I find it much
easier
than using the verbosity menu when a spreadsheet has various regions.
Third, I have had several instances where I could not get the Verbosity
menu
method to work; and after talking with Freedom Scientific support about
it I
was told that there are some bugs and they encouraged me to use Defined
Names when in doubt.
Thanks!
Mark
Mark Stimson, Ph.D.
Document Accessibility Specialist
www.DocumentAccessibility.com
www.accessingenuity.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf
Of Dave Carlson
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 1:27 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Speaking Row and Collumn Titles In Excel
Mark,
Why not just use the JAWS verbosity menu and set column and row titles
for
the selected cell(s)? I do that all the time, and the stetting are
usually
saved in the JSI file unique to that spreadsheet.
Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Stimson" <marks@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 11:44
Subject: RE: Speaking Row and Collumn Titles In Excel
By the way, the steps for getting Jaws to read your titles for you in
Excel
2007 is as follows...
1. Find the row that contains the titles.
2. Place your cursor at the first cell in that row.
3. Next, we Define the Name of this cell as a Title.
4. Type Alt+M to go the Formulas tab.
5. Type M again to open the Define Name menu, and hit D to select it.
6. In the Name field, type in "Title" and hit Enter.
7. Now, as you move around the data, you should hear the column and row
title first, then the cell content.
Best regards, Mark
Mark Stimson, Ph.D.
Document Accessibility Specialist
www.DocumentAccessibility.com
www.accessingenuity.com
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From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf
Of Samara Raine
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 11:06 AM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Speaking Row and Collumn Titles In Excel
Thank you! Laughs I may come whining to you about more in future. You've
helped a great deal. I'll try that title thing, Mark. Thanks so much.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Stimson" <marks@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 12:08 PM
Subject: RE: Speaking Row and Collumn Titles In Excel
> Hi Sam,
>
> Another thing you can do that really helps is to program which columns
> and/or rows contain titles into the spreadsheet using Excel's naming
> function. This is also a feature that enables any spreadsheet author
to
> make spreadsheets accessible with JAWS.
>
> To use names to define row AND column titles, do the following:
> 1. Move to the first cell in the column and row containing the titles
> (sometimes A1).
> 2. From the Insert menu, select Name, then select Define
> 3. Type "Title" and press ENTER.
>
> If you are ONLY using column titles, do the following:
> 1. Move to the first cell in the column containing the titles.
> 2. From the Insert menu, select Name, then select Define
> 3. Type "ColumnTitle" and press ENTER.
> 4. Likewise, if only using row titles, type "RowTitle" instead and
> press ENTER.
>
> If you are using Regions, that is more than set of data on a single
sheet,
> then let me know and I'll send you the instructions for defining
multiple
> column/row titles.
>
> Hope this helps, Mark
>
> Mark Stimson, Ph.D.
> Document Accessibility Specialist
> www.DocumentAccessibility.com
> www.accessingenuity.com
> marks@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf
> Of Samara Morgan
> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 5:24 AM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Speaking Row and Collumn Titles In Excel
>
> Hi, I've looked both at excel help and jaws help, and the commands
> they give me for reading the title or first cell in a collumn or row
> so I know what I'm in if I forget don't work. Now, I'm not certain if
> it's the read title command I need or just a command to read the first
> cell in both the collumns or rows. Can someone help me with a command
> for those please? I do a lot of spreadsheets for different things, and
> sometimes it's simply difficult to remember where I am if I take a
> break or whatnot.
>
> I'd really appreciate it. Thanks guys.
>
> Sam
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