Just an opinion, but defragging rarely makes any noticeable difference in today's pcs because the hard drives of today are so fast compared to those of the day when the idea of defragmenting was first conceived. Anyone who doubts this is welcome to time some activity such as copying a large file; do it a few times to get the best time, then defrag and do it all over again. I'd be very surprised to hear of anyone finding a noticable difference with any pc new enough to run xp or vista. Chip ------------------------------ Chip Orange Database Administrator Florida Public Service Commission Chip.Orange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (850) 413-6314 (Any opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the Florida Public Service Commission.) ________________________________ From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Laura Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 10:26 AM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Slow log off with JAWS 10 Hi peter, Maybe it's not jaws it might be your computer. I noticed when I had XP running on a slower computer the programs like Jaws and other programs took longer to run. You might want to defrag your computer. Do this overnight so that you won't have the temptation to do anything with it. Then after that see if things work better. Laura ----- Original Message ----- From: Peter <mailto:peterholdstock@xxxxxxx> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ; blindtech@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 9:59 AM Subject: Slow log off with JAWS 10 I've noticed that FS haven't bothered to fix the issue where log off/shutdown takes over 30 seconds to happen whilst running JAWS 10. It still only does this with JAWS 10, not any other version of JAWS or whilst JAWS isn't running. Anybody else still having this. Also notice the issue of JAWS jumping in to forms mode as a page has loaded still exists. Thought they might have given us the option of JAWS not going in to forms mode when a page loads as myself and several others have raised it. Peter