Re: Sighted people tracking Jaws.

  • From: "Judy Jones" <jtj1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 20:30:23 -0700

That's what I thought.  The first is true.  When I'm navigating with key 
strokes using PC cursor, either the cursor she sees isn't moving, or she sees 
no cursor at all.

Judy

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Adrian Spratt 
  To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 2:13 PM
  Subject: RE: Sighted people tracking Jaws.


  Judy, I'm sure I'm being dense here, but to clarify, are you saying your 
sighted colleague doesn't see the cursor move when you're using (1) the PC 
cursor or (2) the unrestricted JAWS cursor? I would think the unrestricted JAWS 
cursor wouldn't be visible to a sighted person. As you know, the whole point of 
the JAWS cursor, unrestricted or otherwise, is to enable blind users to move 
around the screen without affecting it in any way. 



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  From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 
Judy Jones
  Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 4:05 PM
  To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Subject: Re: Sighted people tracking Jaws.


  Hi, and thanks.

  I totally understand.

  The most recent scenario is this:  I was trying to show a sighted colleague 
at work how to work in the case management system for our state agency.  It is 
totally accessible to Jaws users, but since I was navigating with key strokes 
instead of the mouse, that cursor wasn't tracking where I was.  The cursor she 
was looking at was standing still.

  What I will try is to set "unrestricted" cursor.  But it sounds thatif I am 
using the PC cursor with no problems, the cursor she sees isn't tracking.

  If this doesn't make sense, let me know.

  Judy

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Sue B 
    To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 1:56 PM
    Subject: Re: Sighted people tracking Jaws.


    Judy,

    I'm sure you know this already, but I'll say it anyway... you will need to 
be much more specific about the areas that you aren't able to read on a screen. 
If you are dealing with parts of a web page, you are likely dealing with 
something that the web designer left out when it comes to accessibility. If you 
are referring to something more generic, tell us about it, maybe everyone 
collectively can come up with solutions.


    Sue B.

    On 11/27/2010 1:36 PM, Judy Jones wrote: 
      Hi,

      I like your first idea.  (grin) I do the tether thing anyway to get to 
areas the virtual cursor sometimes can't get to.  Depending on the screen, the 
Jaws to PC doesn't always read everything either when arrowing through.  Are 
there helps for that, too?

      Thanks.

      Judy

        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Sue B 
        To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
        Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 11:31 AM
        Subject: Re: Sighted people tracking Jaws.


        Judy,

        I think you should get your sighted friend and family to learn JAWS.  
Just kidding. One idea is to turn on the Teather JAWS to PC feature. This will 
work when you are filling in form fields as the mouse pointer will move to 
where you are typing. It will not follow the virtual PC Cursor, but it is a 
start toward a solution.  I think the keystroke is: CTRL+JAWSCursor+NumPad 
Minus.

        I'm looking forward to hearing other ideas on this.

        Sue B. 


        On 11/27/2010 1:17 PM, Judy Jones wrote: 
          Hi,

          I'm talking about navigating and reading a web page, plus filling in 
form fields.

          Judy

            ----- Original Message ----- 
            From: Sue B 
            To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
            Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 11:12 AM
            Subject: Re: Sighted people tracking Jaws.


            Judy,

            Are you specifically referring to when you are browsing the web or 
reading an e-mail that is in HTML format?

            Sue B.
            On 11/27/2010 12:49 PM, Judy Jones wrote: 
              Hello,

              I've had a scenario come up on which I need advice.

              If a sighted colleague wants to see where you're navigating on 
screen with Jaws, is there a way to help him do that.  In various situations, 
either at home or at work, when a colleague or family member wants to follow 
what I'm doing, the cursor they see on screen isn't following my keystrokes.  
Also, if they try to use the mouse with Jaws turned on, the cursor they see 
doesn't track well.  Is there a fix to this?

              Thanks.

              Judy






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