Re: Select all command

  • From: "Gene Stevens" <guystevens@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 13:54:35 -0400

Still seems a very difficult solution to a problem that doesn't need it. Meaning that there are easier ways of doing the same job.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Grimsby" <jimgrims@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 1:51 PM
Subject: RE: Select all command



Hi, then a problem you are going to have here is this.  Even if you got
this command changed in some way probably threw the use of a macro
editor unless you redefine this key threw jaws it is still going to use
control a for select all.  Also most macro editors cause a problem with
jaws it self.
Hth

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 8:51 AM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Select all command


Ah! But JAWS is installed on the machine! So that when I am training them, I can hear that they are doing what I am teaching them, is being performed correctly.

If JAWS was not installed on the machine, How could I, as a person who
has no vision, confirm what the are doing is what I actually ttaught
them to do!

sincerely:

Dave Durber

On Wed, 05 Oct 2005 10:27:43 -0500, you wrote:

uh ok?  If JAWS isn't even installed on the computer in question, then
why
ask about it on the JAWS list? I'm not mad or offended I promise, just
stumped as to why the question was posed here.

At 09:43 AM 10/5/2005, you wrote:
It might be a good idea to drop this thread for now until I hear from
Microsoft.

Sincerely:

Dave durber

On Wed, 5 Oct 2005 10:22:56 -0400, you wrote:

>It's also a good example of people with to narrow a view of how
>things are. Yes this particular person isn't using Jaws, but Jaws
>certainly is used to operate Windows. So this is indeed a legitimate

>topic in my view.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Dave Durber" <dadurber@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 10:12 AM
>Subject: Re: Select all command
>
>
>> tooshay!
>>
>> Sincerely:
>>
>> Dave durber
>>
>> On Wed, 5 Oct 2005 09:00:01 -0500, you wrote:
>>
>>>Dave,
>>>The main reason why there were so many unhelpful answers was
>>>because you didn't give us the long winded explanation in the
>>>original question.  If the list members had known that the person
>>>involved wasn't using JAWS, nobody would have suggested remapping
>>>the keystroke combination with the JAWS Keyboard Manager.  There
>>>would have probably been only a couple of replies with good
>>>suggestions.
>>>
>>>This is a good example of where explaining a problem fully is the
>>>quickest way of getting a good solution.  It also demonstrates
>>>that it is good practice to read all replies and follow-ups to a
>>>message before replying. List traffic would certainly be lighter
>>>if everyone would follow this practice.
>>>
>>>Gary King, w4wkz@xxxxxxxx
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Dave Durber" <dadurber@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 7:16 AM
>>>Subject: Re: Select all command
>>>
>>>
>>>> I am neither stressed nor distressed about this problem and no
>>>> offence taken.
>>>>
>>>> But, some how, my original question seems to have wondered off
>>>> on all sorts of tangents which has not answered the question,
>>>> which essentially was:
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone on the list know whether it is possible within
>>>> Windows, to reassign a windows key combination for a Windows
>>>> function to another key combination.
>>>>
>>>> So far, Dale's suggestion regarding a "key Tweaking" program has

>>>> been the best suggestion to my original question so far.
>>>>
>>>> When a question is posted to the list, if I know the answer, I
>>>> respond with what I think is a possible solution to their
>>>> question.
>>>>
>>>> If I do not know the answer to a question that is posted, I
>>>> keep, as they say, "schtum", because I do not want to clog up
>>>> the list with what I consider to be time wasting postings that
>>>> will not help the poster of the question solve their problem.
>>>>
>>>> If the text in the previous paragraph has upset or offended
>>>> anybody, in any way, please accept my apologies in advance.
>>>>
>>>> sincerely:
>>>>
>>>> Dave Durber
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 4 Oct 2005 21:10:35 -0700, you wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >Please.  I'm sorry you're so distressed, but I asked my
>>>> >question in
>>>complete
>>>> >innocence.  I see that the stress and effort of trying to
>>>> >remedy this problem is considerable, and I'm very sorry to have

>>>> >upset you.  As for
>>>the
>>>> >particular question about accidentally pressing the Save
>>>> >command when I meant to do a Select All, no, that's never
>>>> >happened to me in my many
>>>years
>>>> >of computer use.  I make plenty of ordinary typing errors
>>>> >sometimes, but
>>>not
>>>> >this one, and please don't take it personally.  I'm more than
>>>> >twenty
>>>years
>>>> >younger than this friend of yours, and my fingers just aren't
>>>> >having any problems yet, I'm grateful to say.  I say this with
>>>> >respect for your friend's age.
>>>> >
>>>> >Again, sorry.  Take it easy, and good luck fixing up a
>>>> >workaround for
>>>this
>>>> >friend.
>>>> >
>>>> >----- Original Message -----
>>>> >From: "Dave Durber" <dadurber@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> >Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 8:29 PM
>>>> >Subject: Re: Select all command
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >Regardless as to whether someone is a careless typist or not,
>>>> >that is not the point, this person has a problem, which other
>>>> >individuals might also be experiencing, that is why I am trying

>>>> >to find a solution to their problem.
>>>> >
>>>> >Are you telling us that you never or, have never tapped two
>>>> >keys at the same time when using, for example, a typewriter,
>>>> >perkins brailler or a computer keyboard?  Because, if you have
>>>> >not, then you are probably the first person since the invention

>>>> >of devices that use keyboards that has avoided doing so.
>>>> >
>>>> >Oh!  One other thing!  This person is eighty four years old and

>>>> >has used perkins braillers, and has been typing on computer
>>>> >keyboards for over sixty years.
>>>> >
>>>> >Apart from this problem, she is an excellent typist and an
>>>> >excellent student.
>>>> >
>>>> >And finally, if any of us at eighty four years of age achieve
>>>> >what this person is achieving to do at that age, then we can
>>>> >say that we will still be making a contribution to society and
>>>> >to those around us.
>>>> >
>>>> >Sincerely:
>>>> >
>>>> >Dave Durber
>>>> >
>>>> >On Tue, 4 Oct 2005 20:04:05 -0700, you wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >>Couldn't they just practice their typing?  This seems an
>>>> >>extreme
>>>solution
>>>> >>to
>>>> >>someone typing carelessly.  Maybe I'm not understanding why
>>>> >>such a
>>>radical
>>>> >>solution is necessary.  If so, sorry.
>>>> >>e----- Original Message -----
>>>> >>From: "Dave Durber" <dadurber@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> >>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> >>Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 7:46 PM
>>>> >>Subject: Re: Select all command
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>I was hoping to avoid a long-winded explanation as to why I
>>>> >>need to change the Select All command.  But, here goes!
>>>> >>
>>>> >>I am teaching someone to use Word and duxbury.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>When they save a document that already has been named, with
>>>> >><CTRL+S>, somehow or other they seem to catch their finger
>>>> >>between the <a> and the <s> keys.  As a result, the text in
>>>> >>the document in which they have been working gets deleted and
>>>> >>the blank file overwrites the existing file on the disk.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>The result is, the text in the file gets replaced by a file
>>>> >>that is blank.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>The person I am teaching is sighted and therefore does not use

>>>> >>JAWS. That is the other reason why I need to make the change
>>>> >>in windows rather that in the JAWS Keyboard manager.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>Sincerely:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>Dave Durber
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Tue, 4 Oct 2005 18:48:52 -0700, you wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>>Is this to replace or augment the usual Windows command
>>>> >>>Control A? If
>>>so,
>>>> >>>why?  I missed earlier messages concerning this, and don't
>>>> >>>understand
>>>why
>>>> >>>someone would need another version of this dependable Control

>>>> >>>A
>>>command.
>>>> >>>Possibly, I'm misunderstanding something?
>>>> >>>Thanks.
>>>> >>>isu7nderstanding
>>>> >>>----- Original Message -----
>>>> >>>From: "Jim Grimsby" <jimgrims@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> >>>To: "jaws" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> >>>Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 6:32 PM
>>>> >>>Subject: Select all command
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>The subject has been changed here to reflect what the subject

>>>> >>>is about Using jaws you can assign  select all to any key
>>>> >>>stroke you like. Just use the keyboard manager to add another

>>>> >>>key stroke to this command
>>>> >>>and away you go
>>>> >>>Hope this helps.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
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