Jerry, Not clear what you mean, here. First of all, do you mean that you simply knew this suggestion had to be wrong? Aren't there a lot of settings you could mistakenly make in Configuration Manager that would create problems, which could be resolved if someone got you to check those settings? And second, what do you mean, you gave up on tech support? What do you do when Jaws begins to malfunction, and you want someone to suggest how to diagnose and rectify the problem? I don't get it. Thanks. By The way, I'm not defending FS tech support or in fact making any statement for or against anyone. I'm personally having extraordinary problems with both Open Book and Jaws lately, and so far no one at Tier 1 or Tier 2 has been able to suggest anything, after hours on the phone, but constant rounds of repairs, then uninstalling and reinstalling,and of course restarting my system all the while, between these efforts. Naturally, there was one point at which, when something started malfunctioning in Jaws, one of them made me tog to Display and tweak some bide setting, and I swear, Jaws hadn't been malfunctioning on this computer, with these very settings I already had, for a long time. If I let myself, I'll write ten pages about all these insane tech support phone calls and how they've left me stranded and unable to use Open Book, which keeps hanging, and Jaws 8 which won't even install anymore, the Install Shield Wizard insisting that it can't find the eloquence-related file for the synth. And yes, I did a system restore, on general principles, just as requested. Never mind, I'm starting to break my promise not to go into detail. Arghh. Thank God I've still got Jaws 7 and IE 6 on my machine, and can live with OB acting quirky for a time, anyway. But now John Carson wants me to run a Windows utility that will uninstall my Jaws 7, which I don't know how I'll replace if he can't get Jaws 8 to install and work. Need sighted help for this step, because I'm no good with Windows Narrator... this is so exasperating, I can barely express my dismay well enough. But anyway, what's this about giving up on Tech Support the way you described having done? I really didn't get that. Thanks. ----- Original Message ----- From: "G.W. Cox" <gwcox2@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 2:30 PM Subject: Re: SMA policy was: JAWS update now available I gave up on tech support after I was told that I had changed a setting deep down in configuration manager that was screwing up my Jaws. Wu hu. ----- Original Message ----- From: Crystal French To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 1:03 PM Subject: Re: SMA policy was: JAWS update now available I expect, Chip, if you are like me, I am reluctant to have to invest in another screen reader, and, then, learn to use it. As for Tracey, and tech support. good luck with that one. I gave up after the last time, when tech support could only tell me to reboot the computer. Crystal -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.9.6/862 - Release Date: 6/22/2007 3:04 PM -- JFW related links: JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/ Scripting mailing list: http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com JFW List instructions: To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx