Hi Pat, Would you please expand on the idea of placing the Taskkill shortcut in the Start menu. navigation can be tricky if you don't have speech. The hot-key method does solve the navigation problem. Thank You for your post. Roger ----- Original Message ----- From: PatWJL To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2008 2:10 PM Subject: RE: Restoring JAWS Without Sighted Assistance After Loss of Speech I've been using it for a couple of years now, I believe since the JAWS 7.x version and it seems to work as a last resort. Of course the forced shutdown does not allow JAWS to perform its usual shutdown logic; butI guess that's the point of a forced shutdown. If you notice any strange behavior after restarting JAWS, just shut it down normally (INS F4) so it can perform its normal shutdown and then restart it. BTW I put the JAWS shortcut on my Start menu; that seems to be more reliable than the usual key combinations which, in my experience, can conflict with some other program shortcuts. HTH, Pat -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Gerald Levy Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2008 3:03 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Restoring JAWS Without Sighted Assistance After Loss of Speech Hi Pat. I followed your instructions, and created a keybord shortcut (Alt + Control + K) to kill JAWS in an emergency. It seems to work so far, but the real test comes when I encounter a truly difficult glitch. By the way , I have JAWS 8.0 under XP Pro SP3. Thanks. ----- Original Message ----- From: PatWJL To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2008 12:32 PM Subject: RE: Restoring JAWS Without Sighted Assistance After Loss of Speech There is another way to "kill" JAWS in a particularly difficult situation. I created a shortcut that invokes the XP system utility "taskkill" that forcefully removes a running program. You can create a desktop shortcut with the following target: C:\WINDOWS\system32\taskkill.exe /f /im jfw.exe I named the shortcut "Kill JAWS" and assigned it to the CTRL ALT K key combination. I am connected all day to either of two remote XP installations at work through Windows terminal services and often have a crash. This key combination is, at least for me, a good way to kill the running JAWS program. The taskkill utility is provided as part of XP, but I can't speak for other Windows versions. HTH, Pat -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Gerald Levy Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 7:29 AM To: JFW list Subject: Restoring JAWS Without Sighted Assistance After Loss of Speech Occasionally, a crash or other glitch causes JAWS to stop speaking. When this happens, is there any way to close and restart JAWS without sighted assistance to restore it to normal? Thanks.