Re: Remote Assistance working with JAWS, true or false?

From: "dave_d0619" <dave_d0619@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2008 11:58:58 -0400
If you really believe that Microsoft has worked out a solution to all of the
bugs in Vista Service Pack 1, then you really must have an enormous leap of
faith in a company that has so often in the past claimed to have solved
problems, only to be told and discover that there were even more.

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Hallsworth" <christopherhallsworth71@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 2:46 AM
Subject: Re: Remote Assistance working with JAWS, true or false?


> Hi Liz and all, I personally think most of the bugs in Vista have been
> ironed out in Service Pack 1.
>
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Liz Wade" <ewade@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 5:00 AM
> Subject: RE: Remote Assistance working with JAWS, true or false?
>
>
> > Hi Gary:  Well my friend I am sort of behind in my Jaws only have up to
> > version 7 at the moment although I am currently uising version 5 on my
> > computer as I ran across websited where version 7 would not access them.
> > Don't ask me why so for varied applications, I do have both on the
> > computer.
> > I am using Jaws for windows XP Pro even though I currently am using XP
> > home
> > as my operating system.  I went this route as I thought I possibly might
> > upgrade to the XP Pro and now may as well just wait for vista to get the
> > bugs worked out.  Anyhow, I did not pay the extra $200 I just found
about
> > that option today but may do so and check it out to see if that is a
more
> > workable solution.  Braille displays in this instance are useful but I
> > would
> > also like to have the speech.  Someone on another list suggested I write
a
> > script to try and overcome this issue however, writing scripts I'm not
> > that
> > good at yet.  Take care and it is always good to learn about new things.
> >
> > Regards, Liz Wade
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf
> > Of Gary King
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 6:44 PM
> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: Remote Assistance working with JAWS, true or false?
> >
> > Hi Liz,
> >
> > Which version of JAWS are you using, and is it Pro or Standard?  Also,
did
> > you have to pay the extra $200 to enable Remote Access?
> >
> > If JAWS doesn't speak during the process I'd be out of luck since I
don't
> > have a Braille display.
> >
> > Gary King
> > w4wkz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Liz Wade" <ewade@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 8:20 PM
> > Subject: RE: Remote Assistance working with JAWS, true or false?
> >
> >
> >> Hi Gary:  I haven't tried Microsoft word but have installed the peer to
> >> peer
> >> file sharing program emule on someone elses computer.
> >>
> >> Liz
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> >> Behalf
> >> Of Gary King
> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 6:14 PM
> >> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: Re: Remote Assistance working with JAWS, true or false?
> >>
> >> Liz,
> >>
> >> Is JAWS able to read the other person's computer screen?  Can you run a
> >> program such as Microsoft Word on their system or look at their files
> >> while
> >> using JAWS?
> >>
> >> Gary King
> >> w4wkz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Liz Wade" <ewade@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 7:19 PM
> >> Subject: RE: Remote Assistance working with JAWS, true or false?
> >>
> >>
> >>> Hi Gary:  Yes you are correct it is the first one that pops up in a
> >>> google
> >>> search.  I began using this one as remote assistance with windows
> >>> messenger
> >>> and the one within windows itself were not working for me dut to my
> >>> firewall
> >>> I think.  With crossloop you do not necessarily need to disable your
> >>> firewall as sometimes I forgot to enable it again (smile)  When you
open
> >>> the
> >>> screen you need to do some linking with your jaws to pc/pc to jaws
> >>> cursors
> >>> but if that doesn't bother you too much it is actually fairly
> >>> accessible.
> >>> You check the boxes depending on whether you want to simply view the
> >>> computer or control it.  Let';s see what else did you ask yes it is
free
> >>> although they always like you to pay money like almost everything.
What
> >>> you
> >>> may find is that the first few times of use, your connection may be
> >>> relatively short before a disconnect is encountered.  Depending on who
> >>> is
> >>> doing the sharing and/or accessing, the person requesting remote
access
> >>> will
> >>> have to provide a number if I remember rightly 12 ditigs or so to the
> >>> other
> >>> person so the codes are the same.  Hope this helps.  Let me know if I
> >>> don't
> >>> make sense.
> >>>
> >>> Liz
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> >>> Behalf
> >>> Of Gary King
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 4:47 PM
> >>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> Subject: Re: Remote Assistance working with JAWS, true or false?
> >>>
> >>> Liz,
> >>>
> >>> The site wasn't hard to find.  I just put Crossloop in Google, and I
> >>> think
> >>> it was at the top of the search results.  I read about the remote
> >>> control
> >>> of
> >>>
> >>> another system, the sharing of screens and sending files.
> >>>
> >>> Are you allowing someone to look at your screen or control your
> >>> computer?
> >>> I
> >>>
> >>> can see how this would work, but can you control someone else's system
> >>> using
> >>>
> >>> JAWS?  Also, what is the cost for this service?
> >>>
> >>> Gary King
> >>> w4wkz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Liz Wade" <ewade@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 4:39 PM
> >>> Subject: RE: Remote Assistance working with JAWS, true or false?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> You might also try crossloop have had good success with that.  If
> >>>> anyone
> >>>> wants write me on or off list for the file and/or site.
> >>>>
> >>>> Liz
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> >>>> Behalf
> >>>> Of dianna alley
> >>>> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 2:46 AM
> >>>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> Subject: Re: Remote Assistance working with JAWS, true or false?
> >>>>
> >>>> I wish some one would help me get it  to work with windows live or
> >>>> messenger
> >>>>
> >>>> as well as the remote assistance in windows xp and vista.  I did pay
> >>>> the
> >>>> 200
> >>>>
> >>>> dollars.
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> From: "Gary King" <w4wkz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 3:30 PM
> >>>> Subject: Re: Remote Assistance working with JAWS, true or false?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Chris,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If you want to find out what types of remote access you have with
> >>>>> JAWS,
> >>>>> go
> >>>>
> >>>>> to the Help Topics in the JAWS Help menu, and Control+Tab to the
Index
> >>>>> page. Type the word remote into the edit field, and then read the
> >>>>> topics
> >>>>> found by your search.  If you decide you really need remote access,
be
> >>>>> prepared to purchase JAWS Pro and then pay $200 extra for the
> >>>>> privilege.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Gary King
> >>>>> w4wkz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>> From: "Chris Hallsworth" <christopherhallsworth71@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <jaws-users-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>> Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 3:31 PM
> >>>>> Subject: Remote Assistance working with JAWS, true or false?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi all, is it true that JFW works with the remote assistance
feature
> >>>>>> of
> >>>>>> MSN/Windows Live Messenger? If so how did you all get it to work?
Now
> >>>>>> I'm
> >>>>
> >>>>>> on high speed broadband this would be a good thing to do,
especially
> >>>>>> if
> >>>>>> I
> >>>>
> >>>>>> can help my friends out remotely. Thanks!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> Chris Hallsworth
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Derbyshire, UK
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> E-mail
> >>>>>> christopherhallsworth71@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> MSN
> >>>>>> ch9675@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Skype
> >>>>>> chrishallsworth7266
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Website
> >>>>>> http://www.chrishallsworth.co.nr
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Klango
> >>>>>> chrishallsworth
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> JFW related links:
> >>>>>> JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/
> >>>>>> Scripting mailing list:
> >>>>>> http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com
> >>>>>> JFW List instructions:
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> >>>> --
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> >>>> Scripting mailing list:
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> >>> --
> >>> JFW related links:
> >>> JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/
> >>> Scripting mailing list:
> >>> http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com
> >>> JFW List instructions:
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> >>> Scripting mailing list:
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> >> --
> >> JFW related links:
> >> JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/
> >> Scripting mailing list:
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> >> JFW List instructions:
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> >> JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/
> >> Scripting mailing list:
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> >> JFW List instructions:
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> > Scripting mailing list:
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> > JFW List instructions:
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> > JFW List instructions:
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