Read Only Edit Re: Tutor messages?

  • From: "Margaret Thomas" <iluvtoread@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 01:36:03 -0400


    My problem with the Read Only Edit thing is that recent versions
of JAWS say it when it is not appropriate.

    One example of it happening here when I first installed 6.0 was in
Outlook Express when you do a Control-Shift-F for the Advanced Find.

    I was able to get rid of the "Read Only Edit," so I can't give you
the exact order here with my Win 98 se machine, but JAWS 6.0 was
saying Received After Read Only Edit when you hit Control-Shift-F and
in other places in the resulting message list.  I was not a happy
camper to discover that it's is doing it on my brand new XP machine.
I don't have access to the new machine at the moment, but I can check
the exact wording if you aren't experiencing it and are still curious.

    FS doesn't have an answer for the Received After bit which JAWS
seems to be picking up from where you can select a date range and it
has supposedly been passed along to their escalation team.  Someone
from FS did call me about it and he heard the "Received After" for
himself, but that was weeks ago and I haven't heard anything more
since then.  I have not downloaded 6.1 since I'm waiting for the
promised changes.

"Yardbird" wrote:

Rereading the message below, it finally occurred to me to ask the
Doesn't anyone think these "read only edit" messages are helpful?  I
do.  It
certainly saves me the problem of bothering to try entering text in
such a
box, so that instead of wasting my time, I move on through the tab, or
or whatever, and find someplace where I *am* supposed to enter
How come everyone's so annoyed with this message (apart from the
comment I
made about the wording being absurd, that is)?

form methe
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "curmudgeon" <one2three4five6@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 4:16 AM
Subject: Re: Tutor messages?

to kill jaws saying, read only edit in dialog boxes or where ever it
its ugly head

here is what you can do

part of my configuration settings,


1open up jaws configuration manager, insert f2

2down arrow, to enter on configuration manager

3press, control shift d, delta, for the default configuration manager


spacebar to check a check box,

or up or down arrow to change a radio button

if you want to know what any particular button does or check box

press inserrt f1 for help, escape to get out of help

press alt s, press the letter, m, for speech and sounds manager

tab twice, enter on, Edit Current Scheme button

press control tab, to control type page

press the letter r, twice to read only edit

tab once, and down arrow to ignore

tab to the ok button and press enter

tab once, to  save current scheme button and press enter

tab to the ok button and press enter

press, control s, to save the settings

close the jaws configuration manager alt f4,

turn jaws off, insert f4,

turn jaws on, control alt j,

and u b done!

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "rich hamel" <rcham27@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 6:10 PM
Subject: Re: Tutor messages?

I tried this and it did not work.
My problem may not be with "tutor" messages.
     The first time I open a message in my e mail, I hear JAWS say
only edit".
This usually occurs when there is a blank space somewhere. The second
time I
read the message, I do not hear JAWS say its thing.

Thanks for the input.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John O. Carvalho" <n1sea@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 6:30 PM
Subject: Re: Tutor messages?

> Hey Rich,
> To turn off the messages just go into your jaws & just arrow up to
> first
> choice the third one.
> I think it might say something like turned off.
> Good luck with it.
> John Carvalho not
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "rich hamel" <rcham27@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "JFW" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 5:48 PM
> Subject: Tutor messages?
> My problem with the expanded/collapsed announcement has been fixed
> to
> everyone's suggestions.
> My questions now, Why does JAWS announce "use your reading keys to
> the
> message" or something to that effect. It is very annoying to hear
this on
> every message.
> I have JAWS 6.0 and X P.
> I adjusted the "tutor" option to each of the 3 options and this did
> effect my problem.
>     Does anybody have any suggestions?
> Rich

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