Re: Punctuation and JAWS
- From: Pranav Lal <pranav.lal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 16:34:30 +0530
Hi Adrian,
for the moment I am stumped but I will keep a lookout for this since
this effects me to.
Pranav
On Saturday 11/19/2005 10:18 AM, Adrian Spratt said:
I've just tried both your constructive suggestions. Unfortunately,
changing
punctuation control to the synthesizer had no impact, while the JAWS
dictionary didn't appear to recognize a colon as a word, even if I
preceded
and followed it with spaces. It's possible I'm overlooking something
about
the dictionary, but I must say I've tried these and other methods in
the
past, with equal lack of success.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pranav Lal" <pranav.lal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 10:19 PM
Subject: Re: Punctuation and JAWS
> Hi,
>
> another way to insert pauses after punctuation could be to add
them to the
> user dictionary with a space. I have faced your mispronounced
words in
> single quotation marks problem as well.
>
> Pranav
> on Saturday 11/19/2005 05:54 AM, Adrian Spratt said:
> I appreciate your thoughtful reply. Still, the "most" or "some"
> punctuation
> setting question is a little different. I think of reading a long
> document
> on the Net where a semicolon can actually alter the meaning of a
sentence.
> With a pause it would read one way, without a pause it reads
another.
> Personally, I get distracted from the content when listening to
> punctuation
> marks being spoken. The single quotation problem is even worse,
since
> JAWS
> doesn't speak words accurately inside them. I face that issue all
the
> time
> when reading the New York Times, for example. What I find strange
is that
> both problems ought to be simple fixes for FS. They know how to
insert
> pauses after commas and other punctuation, and JAWS handles words
inside
> double quotations with ease.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
>
> > Adrian,
> > this is just my personal preference, but I keep Jaws set to
speak
> most
> > punctuation, from among the choices offered in the basics
> menu. which
> > means that I don't hear things like commas spoken, but do hear
> single and
> > double quotation marks spoken so that I am apprised that it's a
> quotation
> > or a quotation within a quotation that I'm hearing. This is
> essential to
> > me in a way it might not be for another user, I understand. As
> for colons
> > and semicolons, I don't have jaws set to speak them, and I, too,
> regret
> > that they don't produce a significant pause. I think the only
way
> to
> > really be sure what was happening, aside from reading word by
> word, would
> > be to go into the Configuration Manager verbosity section and
get
> those
> > and other punctuation marks to speak, though I'd hate to do
> it. If you're
> > writing something yourself, rather than reading what's already
> been
> > written by someone else, leaving two spaces after a colon (and
> even after
> > a period) in the way that seems to have gone out of fashion (a
> semicolon
> > has always required only one space following)helps to slow Jaws
> down
> > appropriately, to indicate the rhythmic nuance. But in my
> experience,
> > anyway, it isn't possible to simply have text spoken in the
> cadence that
> > accurately reflects all such punctuation, I'm afraid. What I
> describe are
> > just some tricks I've had to learn to bear with because of this.
> >
> > sometone ,
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Adrian Spratt" <A.Spratt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >
> >
> > I find it helps my reading comprehension when JAWS pauses at
> commas and
> > other punctuation. However, it doesn't pause after colons or
> semicolons.
> > Also, JAWS reads text well between double quotation marks, but
not
> when
> > the
> > text is between single quotations. Does anyone have any
> suggestions how I
> > can make appropriate adjustments?
> >
> > Or, as I suspect, are these limitations inherent in JAWS? In
that
> case,
> > do
> > they interfere with other people's ability to comprehend what
they
> read
> > with
> > JAWS?
> >
> > I've written several times to the FS suggestions email address,
> but
> > without
> > getting any response.
> >
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