RE: Problem with Word document
- From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 09:39:55 -0500
Well, as I said, jaws doesn't read you the entire line except when you
use the up or down arrow keys. If they've arranged the document in some
way so that your cursor can't pass over the labeling text "sir name"
(and there are several ways in which they could arrange that), then
moving using your left and right arrow keys will never read it to you.
Hth,
Chip
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Catherine Turner
> Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 5:48 PM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: Problem with Word document
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> Hi,
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> But when I go right or ctrl right I hear "blank" several=20
> times, until I get onto the next section entirely (so I never=20
> hear "surname" except when cursoring down onto that line).
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> I'll use the route pc to jaws method someone mentioned=20
> earlier - thanks for that.
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> But am still curious as to what's actually happening here -=20
> why JAWS doesn't seem to recognise this text as being there,=20
> except when cursoring up and down.
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> Catherine
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> > Behalf Of Chip Orange
> > Sent: 28 October 2004 19:57
> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: RE: Problem with Word document
> >
> >
> > When you use the up/down arrow keys jaws reads the entire=20
> line; when=20
> > you use some combination involving the left/right arrow keys, jaws=20
> > will either read the character you land on or the word,=20
> depending on=20
> > what you've used, but not the entire line; this may be why=20
> you're not=20
> > hearing the prompt of "sir name" as you move to the right.
> >
> > I think it's very difficult for someone (blind or not) to try and=20
> > "fill out" a word document that's not been designed as a=20
> word "form",=20
> > so don't feel bad; it's of course much harder if you are blind. =
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> >
> > You might ask whoever provided you this document if they=20
> could convert=20
> > it for you into a Word "form"; if they do that, and they need some=20
> > advice on making it accessible, tell them to be sure to=20
> specify a help=20
> > text for each field which is an accurate prompt for the=20
> information to=20
> > be entered into that field.
> >
> > I did convert such a poorly constructed document for the=20
> state office=20
> > of the Florida Division of Blind Services and returned it=20
> to them just=20
> > to get my point across to them that it could be done, and=20
> made to be=20
> > much more accessible to their potential blind clients and=20
> their blind=20
> > employees. I don't know if it ever convinced them to begin=20
> converting=20
> > their other forms or not as I never heard back from them,=20
> although I=20
> > did hear they had begun to use my converted form, at least=20
> internally.
> >
> > Hth,
> >
> > Chip
> >
> > =3D20
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20
> > > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Catherine Turner
> > > Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 12:43 PM
> > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: Problem with Word document
> > >=3D20
> > > Hi,
> > >=3D20
> > > I have a Word document which is an application form for=20
> a=3D20 job. =20
> > >It's not a form as in with checkboxes and fields etc=3D20 =20
> but seems to=20
> > >be just typed and with spaces where one should=3D20 fill in the=20
> > >answers.
> > >=3D20
> > > The problem is JAWS isn't reading it properly. For=20
> example=3D20 when=20
> > >I cursor down to where it says Personal Details. Then=3D20 =20
> cursoring=20
> > >down below that I hear "Surname", "Address" and=3D20 various =
things=20
> > >like that. But say I've cursored onto the=3D20 line that says=20
> > >"Surname", and I cursor right or CTRL Cursor=3D20 right to=20
> get along=20
> > >the line to the right place to write my=3D20 surname, all=20
> JAWS says is=20
> > >"blank" - yet it reads "Surname"=3D20 when I cursor up or down =
onto=20
> > >that line.
> > >=3D20
> > > The view is set to "print layout". When I set it=20
> "normal"=3D20 there=20
> > >seems to be nothing at all in the Personal Details=3D20 =20
> section - when=20
> > >I cursor down after "Personal Details" I just=3D20 find a=20
> lot of blank=20
> > >lines according to JAWS, then it goes on=3D20 to the next section.
> > >=3D20
> > > Can anyone explain what is happening here? I suspect it's=3D20 =20
> > >something to do with the way this document has been=20
> created=3D20 but=20
> > >anyone say what? And is there anything I can do about it=3D20 so =
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> > >can get to the right places to fill in my answers?
> > >=3D20
> > > Catherine
> > >=3D20
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