Re: Posting answers:

  • From: "Jack Lowe" <akronjack1982@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 21:09:20 -0500

Do you know how much Braille paper I went through writing myself notes? LOL.
But, it helped me learn the computer as well as Jaws.   Jack
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sean McMahon" <smcmahon@xxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 7:50 PM
Subject: Re: Posting answers:


> When I started learning about jaws and windows, I found that when I 
> learned
> something it was helpful to make notes of it like you would for a class. 
> I also
> found it was helpful to  use some helpful comparisons if you could compare 
> what
> you are learning to something else.  I also found that if I wrote it down 
> in
> clear language and assumed I wouldn't know  what I meant the next time I 
> looked
> at it, my notes were clearer.  Catigorizing a notepad of information like
> writing files in ms word, commands for jaws, creating directories, helpped 
> a
> long way.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead5@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 3:29 PM
> Subject: RE: Posting answers:
>
>
> These are great discussions.  the one thing I really wish new computer
> users were more encouraged to do is to save documents with information to
> their hard drive. What sparked this discussion for me was the fact that we
> seem to get the same questions over and over again, when the information 
> is
> just so readily available, if the person only knew how to get to it.
> So, visit the JFW Lite home page
> http://www.jfwlite.com
> go to the helpful hints page and look at what's discussed there. If you
> haveany programs you want to learn about that are there, you can copy and
> paste the information to a separate text document, you can put the page in
> your favorites, lots of things you can do.
> I've never been one for spoon feeding information because the person is
> relying on the other person to do all the work.  I like to encourage 
> people
> to do research and learn for themselves. That way the information stays
> there longer and the person can know that they accomplished something at 
> least.
>
>
> At 03:31 PM 1/11/2005, you wrote:
>>I've always appreciated the compact communication style that David, Bruce
>>and others have provided.  It helps me think through things and delve into
>>the product. Clear questions yield clear answers.  I also sometimes
>>appreciate the more lengthy teaching style that Jack and others employ
>>because some times I don't know how to frame a compact enough question. 
>>My
>>own offerings tend to be lengthy. If the offering is too long, too short,
>>doesn't fit my business need, something that I've known for a long time or
>>is just a rant, I can discard it and move on.  If it's just what I need I
>>use and save it.  I don't see these as competing or mutually exclusive
>>styles of communication.  I don't see it as a competition of expertise
>>either.  I'm happy to learn from the several styles and those who so
>>consistently answer, guide, help, share, and encourage us all to just get 
>>on
>>with it.
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
>>Of david poehlman
>>Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 10:48 AM
>>To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>Subject: Re: Posting answers:
>>
>>I'm not saying people don' deserve answers, I'm saying that there are 
>>things
>>one can do to help themselves and I am saying that if an answer is not or
>>does not appear to be sufficient, clarity can be asked for and will be
>>given.
>>
>>Johnnie Apple Seed
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Jack Lowe" <akronjack1982@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 1:34 PM
>>Subject: Re: Posting answers:
>>
>>
>>Hey Everyone,
>>
>>We were all new at this once!  If someone doesn't know the answer to
>>something, then the question is very important to the person asking it.
>>And they deserve to have their question answered.  Sometimes going through
>>help documents can take all day if you don't know how to find the info you
>>need.
>>I've learned a lot from those of you on this list just by reading.  And 
>>I'm
>>glad that I've been able to contribute as well.
>>Jaws is a very complex program to learn.  So, no matter if the question is
>>quite simple or something rather complicated.  They all deserve an answer 
>>as
>>well as patients.   Jack
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 12:15 PM
>>Subject: Re: Posting answers:
>>
>>
>> > oh, let's argue about it then.  This is a list for help.  Feed a man a
>> > fish
>> > and you have to feed him or her for the rest of his life, teach him/her
>> > how
>> > to fish and he can support his/her self so go fish please?
>> >
>> > Johnnie Apple Seed
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 11:58 AM
>> > Subject: Re: Posting answers:
>> >
>> >
>> > um, this list is here for people to ask for help. This is supposed to 
>> > be a
>> > help list. It doesn't bother me if someone asks for help that they 
>> > could
>> > have gotten from using the jaws help. If you are going to provide help 
>> > why
>> > give brief answers. Again I keep saying this, but this is a list for 
>> > help.
>> > Good help I might add. Not short, or brief answers or instructions.
>> > Telling
>> > people to go to help first isn't helping. I'm sure we all know that 
>> > jaws
>> > has
>> > a help menu, but the list is here to provide any help that is needed. 
>> > Even
>> > if someone asks a question like how to creat a hotkey for jaws we 
>> > should
>> > provide the answer to that question. I don't care how simple the 
>> > question
>> > may be to someone it isn't simple to others.
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 10:04 AM
>> > Subject: Posting answers:
>> >
>> >
>> >> If some one needs more than brief instructions, they can ask.  Often,
>> >> brief
>> >> instructions in response to a poster's questions because they are most
>> >> assuredly asking for a brush up.  I feel sorry for the digest readers
>> >> although When detailed instructions are called for, it is good to know
>> >> that
>> >> they are available.  I encourage everyone to first try looking in help 
>> >> or
>> >> in
>> >> the archives before popping off a question and if you have a question,
>> >> Please ask, you may either wait a long time for your question to be
>> >> answered
>> >> or it may never be answered if you don't ask.
>> >>
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