Re: Posting answers:
- From: "Sean McMahon" <smcmahon@xxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 17:50:06 -0700
When I started learning about jaws and windows, I found that when I learned
something it was helpful to make notes of it like you would for a class. I also
found it was helpful to use some helpful comparisons if you could compare what
you are learning to something else. I also found that if I wrote it down in
clear language and assumed I wouldn't know what I meant the next time I looked
at it, my notes were clearer. Catigorizing a notepad of information like
writing files in ms word, commands for jaws, creating directories, helpped a
long way.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead5@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 3:29 PM
Subject: RE: Posting answers:
These are great discussions. the one thing I really wish new computer
users were more encouraged to do is to save documents with information to
their hard drive. What sparked this discussion for me was the fact that we
seem to get the same questions over and over again, when the information is
just so readily available, if the person only knew how to get to it.
So, visit the JFW Lite home page
http://www.jfwlite.com
go to the helpful hints page and look at what's discussed there. If you
haveany programs you want to learn about that are there, you can copy and
paste the information to a separate text document, you can put the page in
your favorites, lots of things you can do.
I've never been one for spoon feeding information because the person is
relying on the other person to do all the work. I like to encourage people
to do research and learn for themselves. That way the information stays
there longer and the person can know that they accomplished something at least.
At 03:31 PM 1/11/2005, you wrote:
>I've always appreciated the compact communication style that David, Bruce
>and others have provided. It helps me think through things and delve into
>the product. Clear questions yield clear answers. I also sometimes
>appreciate the more lengthy teaching style that Jack and others employ
>because some times I don't know how to frame a compact enough question. My
>own offerings tend to be lengthy. If the offering is too long, too short,
>doesn't fit my business need, something that I've known for a long time or
>is just a rant, I can discard it and move on. If it's just what I need I
>use and save it. I don't see these as competing or mutually exclusive
>styles of communication. I don't see it as a competition of expertise
>either. I'm happy to learn from the several styles and those who so
>consistently answer, guide, help, share, and encourage us all to just get on
>with it.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
>Of david poehlman
>Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 10:48 AM
>To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: Re: Posting answers:
>
>I'm not saying people don' deserve answers, I'm saying that there are things
>one can do to help themselves and I am saying that if an answer is not or
>does not appear to be sufficient, clarity can be asked for and will be
>given.
>
>Johnnie Apple Seed
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Jack Lowe" <akronjack1982@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 1:34 PM
>Subject: Re: Posting answers:
>
>
>Hey Everyone,
>
>We were all new at this once! If someone doesn't know the answer to
>something, then the question is very important to the person asking it.
>And they deserve to have their question answered. Sometimes going through
>help documents can take all day if you don't know how to find the info you
>need.
>I've learned a lot from those of you on this list just by reading. And I'm
>glad that I've been able to contribute as well.
>Jaws is a very complex program to learn. So, no matter if the question is
>quite simple or something rather complicated. They all deserve an answer as
>well as patients. Jack
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 12:15 PM
>Subject: Re: Posting answers:
>
>
> > oh, let's argue about it then. This is a list for help. Feed a man a
> > fish
> > and you have to feed him or her for the rest of his life, teach him/her
> > how
> > to fish and he can support his/her self so go fish please?
> >
> > Johnnie Apple Seed
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 11:58 AM
> > Subject: Re: Posting answers:
> >
> >
> > um, this list is here for people to ask for help. This is supposed to be a
> > help list. It doesn't bother me if someone asks for help that they could
> > have gotten from using the jaws help. If you are going to provide help why
> > give brief answers. Again I keep saying this, but this is a list for help.
> > Good help I might add. Not short, or brief answers or instructions.
> > Telling
> > people to go to help first isn't helping. I'm sure we all know that jaws
> > has
> > a help menu, but the list is here to provide any help that is needed. Even
> > if someone asks a question like how to creat a hotkey for jaws we should
> > provide the answer to that question. I don't care how simple the question
> > may be to someone it isn't simple to others.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 10:04 AM
> > Subject: Posting answers:
> >
> >
> >> If some one needs more than brief instructions, they can ask. Often,
> >> brief
> >> instructions in response to a poster's questions because they are most
> >> assuredly asking for a brush up. I feel sorry for the digest readers
> >> although When detailed instructions are called for, it is good to know
> >> that
> >> they are available. I encourage everyone to first try looking in help or
> >> in
> >> the archives before popping off a question and if you have a question,
> >> Please ask, you may either wait a long time for your question to be
> >> answered
> >> or it may never be answered if you don't ask.
> >>
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