Re: Peculiarities and Apparent Inconsistencies

  • From: "Farfar Carlson" <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 06:36:18 -0700

Ed,

Good point. I hadn't chafed at the difference, but it does point out a 
slight inconsistency in the coding. I guess the answer might be that in 
generating the list of forms (Insert f5)  it would require more complex 
coding to have the list work the same as Insert f7.

As you described in your example it would mean that the Insert f5 dialog 
would have a   new pair of buttons (move to form and activate form) and it 
would need to have the "activate form" greyed out for any edit fields.

Also I notice that there is no ability to sort the list of forms, so that's 
another inconsistency in coding.

Why not send this to FS to their suggestions@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx address? 
Maybe they would add this functionality to a later release of JAWS.

Dave
Created in the Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Jose, California


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Marquette, Ed" <Ed.Marquette@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 06:24
Subject: Peculiarities and Apparent Inconsistencies


This note is not earth-shattering in importance.  So, if you are extremely 
busy, hit "DELETE" now.
In JAWS 11 there are a couple of very similar commands that seem, at least 
on the surface, to function differently.  There is likely a reason, but I 
have not figured it out and would think consistent treatment would be an 
improvement.  I do have an open mind and would not chafe at being corrected 
if this is all wrong-headedness on my part.
By pressing JAWS Key Plus F-7, one gets a kind of list of links.  By jumping 
to the correct letter and hitting ENTER, the system jumps to the link and 
activates it.  By hitting ENTER, one has executed the command.  There is, of 
course, an option (one I use rarely) which lets the user just jump to the 
link rather than executing it.
JAWS Key plus F-5 produces a similar, though not identical, list, not of 
links, but of form controls.  Similarly, by pressing the first letter of the 
desired item, one can immediately move to the control in the list.  So, if 
it is a Button labeled "SEARCH," JAWS jumps directly to it in the HTML or 
PDF document after pressing ENTER.  This is a very nice time-saver, 
particularly if there are numerous buttons on the screen.  Perhaps I should 
make clear that I'm talking about functionality in a Web (or PDF) 
application.
Unfortunately, I cannot figure out how to make JAWS, after using the JAWS 
Key plus F-5 key function, just go ahead and push the button rather than 
merely jumping to it.  So, if it is a link that I've identified through JAWS 
Key plus F-7, depressing the ENTER key on the right option, by default, is 
the end of the matter -- the link is activated.  By contrast, if it is a 
button or other form field I'm looking for, after using JAWS Key plus F-5, I 
have to hit ENTER on the desired control and then hit ENTER again to 
activate it.
Now, if the form field is an Edit Box, I can understand why "activation" of 
the control wouldn't be desirable.  The same could possibly be said of other 
controls, but shouldn't JAWS be smart enough to know or at least give users 
the option of either "jumping" to the control or "executing" it?
OK.  That has been bugging me for a couple of weeks.  I'm a relatively new 
(or renewed) JAWS user.  So, it is conceivable that the answer is readily 
apparent, and I'm just missing the point.
Your kind assistance would be appreciated.


I. Edward Marquette
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