RE: Outlook or Outlook express?

  • From: "Renette Bloem" <renette@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 10:25:54 +0200

Ryan

If I shift-tab back from the "CC" field to the "to" field, only the name of
the person to which I want to send the e-mail has been auto completed.
There is no e-mail address.

Is there a setting that one can change to indeed have the full e-mail
address and not only the name of the person (as it appears in my contact
list) being filled in and read?

I hope they hurry up with the release of Jaws 8.0 then.

Thanks.

Renette

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of Ryan MacIsaac
Sent: 30 October 2006 21:29
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Outlook or Outlook express?


As mentioned earlier, it is a known bug in Jaws where the auto complete
information in Outlook is not spoken when you begin typing an e-mail address
in the to or cc field. This feature used to work properly in earlier
versions of Jaws, but has not worked properly since Jaws 7.0. According to
FS, it is supposed to be fixed in Jaws 8.0.

If you tab to the cc field and then shift tab back to the to field, you will
see that the to field is filled in with an e-mail address.

Regards,
Ryan


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Renette Bloem
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 2:46 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Outlook or Outlook express?

Yardbird

I agree that it cannot be a Jaws problem.

I Shall immediately report back if I can solve the auto complete problem in
Microsoft Outlook 2000.

Renette

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of Yardbird
Sent: 30 October 2006 20:16
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Outlook or Outlook express?


Renette,
I wouldn't imagine it's a Jaws problem.  don't forget, even if all you can
do in the To and CC fields is to manually type an email address for a
recipient, Jaws ought to be able to read it.  Only if Jaws can't read what
you type in one of those fields, for some reason, could Jaws be at fault.
It's only speaking what it sees, so to speak.  I can't think of any way Jaws
could prevent that function from working, in other words.

Well, if you ever figure this one out, I'll be interested to hear the
details.  Sorry I couldn't help.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Renette Bloem" <renette@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 10:09 AM
Subject: RE: Outlook or Outlook express?


Yardbird

Thanks.

We already tried your suggestion last week when this mission was tackled in
all earnest, but it did not work!

Somebody on the list suggested that it is a bug in Jaws 7.1, but I do not
think so.  Perhaps Outlook 2000 is just not up to it.

Renette

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of Yardbird
Sent: 30 October 2006 19:20
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Outlook or Outlook express?


Whoops.  I guess I was wrong.  Although I checked that item "When sending
email, suggest names," etc., when I started a new email and began typing a
name from my address book in the To: line, nothing happened.  I mean,
Outlook didn't try to complete the name, or offer a short list of
alternatives for finishing what I'd begun typing.

Sorry.  Maybe I was wrong about what that setting's for, or maybe for some
reason Outlook isn't accessing my address book because I moved it from its
default place on my hard drive, and I'd have to find where to direct Outlook
to look for it.

But maybe this works for you if you have your address book where Outlook
already expects to find it.  Again, sorry if I was entirely wrong.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 8:54 AM
Subject: Re: Outlook or Outlook express?


Renette,

I found what you need in Outlook 2003, and maybe it's set up the same in
your version.  Open the Tools menu, go to the Preferences tab, click on the
item named Email options, tab down a few items, and click on Advanced email
options.

Now find the item worded something like "Suggest names when filling in the
To, CC and BCC fields.  I believe what they mean is the same as
auto-complete.  I'm pretty sure.  Why Microsoft wouldn't bother to name
identical functions the same thing from one program to the other, I'll never
understand.  Give it a try.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 8:29 AM
Subject: Re: Outlook or Outlook express?


Renette,
Just to make sure we're clear on this, I didn't mean I didn't think you knew
about auto complete.  I meant that from the way you described it, it wasn't
clear to me if you knew if can be turned on and off, if you prefer to change
the setting.  And those tabs are under the options menu, not the tools menu
itself.

Sorry you're having such trouble.  Wish I could help.  Thanks for explaining
everything.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Renette Bloem" <renette@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 8:20 AM
Subject: RE: Outlook or Outlook express?


Yardbird

Yes, I am aware of this handy feature in Outlook Express.

I have switched to Microsoft Outlook 2000 a month ago.  None of the tabs
under the "tools" menu seems to do the auto complete - in any case not in
Microsoft Outlook  2000( which is on a second hand Laptop which I am using).

Thanks.

Renette



-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of Yardbird
Sent: 30 October 2006 18:05
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Outlook or Outlook express?


Hi Renette,

Well, I hope you know that you can turn this handy feature on and off in
Outlook Express, if you want to, yes?  It wasn't clear from what you say
below if you're aware of that.  As for Outlook,doesn't it have a similar
Options group of tabs under the Tools menu, and doesn't one of those tabs
include this item?

Thanks.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Renette Bloem" <renette@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 7:49 AM
Subject: RE: Outlook or Outlook express?


Hi Yardbird

Unfortunately nothing new for you to learn, but let me try to bring you into
the "picture":

The initial problem was/is definitely with Microsoft Outlook 2000, not with
Outlook Express.

In Outlook Express, when starting to type the name of a contact in the "to"
field, the name and e-mail address are   automatically  completed and read
out by Jaws.  Very nice and convenient!

In Microsoft Outlook (2000) we could not manage to get  something similar to
happen.

Renette

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of Yardbird
Sent: 30 October 2006 17:30
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Outlook or Outlook express?


P.S.

I don't understand why the auto-complete question was problematic, or what
these keystrokes were being mentioned for.  To set OE (I don't use Outlook;
maybe the menus are different) to autocomplete an address when creating a
new outgoing email, you go to Tools/Options, control tab to the Send tab,
tab down a few items, and check the box for this to be done.  Why were these
other keystrokes being discussed at all?  I ask out of genuine perplexity,
hoping to learn something I may not know about Jaws and my email program.
thanks.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mullins, Chris" <Chris.Mullins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 7:09 AM
Subject: RE: Outlook or Outlook express?


It's quite simple really, the initial thread was to do with getting Outlook
to auto complete Email addresses and I suggested that shift f1 be used to
check the Outlook screen tips for some controls within the interface.  The
lady who made the initial post could not get this to work on her machine, so
someone suggested I really meant Insert f1 and I pointed that personn to the
1st item in the list under Insert w for Outlook.

I believe the issue is now resolved

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of Yardbird
Sent: 30 October 2006 14:42
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Outlook or Outlook express?


I confess that I haven't followed this thread from the beginning, and maybe
that's why I don't understand something about this first post in the thread
that I've opened, out of curiosity.  what is it that someone's looking for?
I'm not sure what you're talking about.  Insert W, so far as I knowtell,
brings up the same thing no matter which application you're in.  It's a list
of universal Windows keystrokes.  The first one mentioned, if I understand
your message below, is the press of the Alt key, which this list tells you
is the key that will take you to the menu line of a Windows application.
This isn't something most of us need to be told, nor anything at all unique
to Outlook or Outlook Express.  Am I misunderstanding what's being
discussed?  If there's something new to learn, I'd like to learn it, but
this comment isn't clear to me.

Thanks.
gue----- Original Message -----
From: "Mullins, Chris" <Chris.Mullins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 12:56 AM
Subject: RE: Outlook or Outlook express?


Check out the first keystroke listed when you hit Insert w
shift f1 gives Outlook screen tips

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of G.W. Cox
Sent: 27 October 2006 17:26
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Outlook or Outlook express?


I think he meant insert, or Jaws key, F 1.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Angie" <mawmaw23@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 9:09 AM
Subject: RE: Outlook or Outlook express?


Hi Ryan,
I have made sure that both boxes are checked but, I still get
nothing. I do not understand it at all!
When I do shift F1 nothing happens.
Should I go back to bed and wake up again?
lol

Angie

:42 AM 10/27/2006, you wrote:
>Hi Angie,
>
>I haven't been following this thread from the beginning, so if you have
>already done this, I apologize.
>
>In Outlook, go to the tools menu and select options. When the options
>dialog
>opens, find the button for e-mail options and hit the spacebar. Next,
>find
>the advanced e-mail options and hit the spacebar. Next, find the check
>boxes
>which say "automatic check names" and "Suggest names when entering to,
>cc".
>I think the second check box is the one you need, but if that does not
>work
>for you, try checking both of these check boxes.
>
>As for your shift F1 problem, does anything happen when you press these
>keys?
>
>Regards,
>Ryan
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>Behalf
>Of Angie
>Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 10:06 AM
>To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: RE: Outlook or Outlook express?
>
>Hi Ryan,
>Even if I type in a lot of the letters it will not  complete it for me.
>And do you have any suggestions on why my shift F1 would not work?
>
>Sorry for all the questions this morning!
>Thank you,
>
>Angie
>At 08:49 AM 10/27/2006, you wrote:
> >If you are using Jaws 7.0 or Jaws 7.1, there is a bug where the auto
> >complete information is not spoken when you type in the to or cc
> >field in
>an
> >Outlook message. If you type enough characters for the auto complete
> >to
> >complete the e-mail address and then tab out of the to field and then
> >tab
> >back in to the field, you will hear the e-mail address.
> >
> >This is another one of those little annoyances that is supposed to be
> >fixed
> >in Jaws 8.0.
> >
> >Regards,
> >Ryan
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> >Behalf
> >Of Angie
> >Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 7:27 AM
> >To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >Subject: RE: Outlook or Outlook express?
> >
> >Yes, I did this. I went through every tab in the tools menu /
> >options, I found the auto complete option but, it will not work. Like
> >I had posted before I can route Jaws to PC  go to the send to field
> >and click on that button and my address will drop down.
> >Chris,
> >why will the one at your work not work but, the one at home will, ?
> >
> >Thank you,
> >AngieAt 04:13 AM 10/27/2006, you wrote:
> > >Angie
> > >Drop down the 'Tools' menu then have a a look at the tabs under the
> > >'Options' sub-menu item and see if you can find anything to do with
> > >'Auto complete'.  I have Outlook at home and that auto completes
> > >addresses for me but the version I have here at workdoes not, so I
> > >can't give precise instructions.  Alternatively, press f1 whilst in
> > >Outlook, press alt a to bring up the Answer wizard and type 'auto
> > >complete email addresses' in the question box and press enter on
> > >search.  Check through the list of topics it finds and hopefully
> > >you
> > >will find instructions on how to do it.
> > >
> > >Cheers
> > >Chris
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> > >Behalf Of Angie
> > >Sent: 26 October 2006 23:21
> > >To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >Subject: Outlook or Outlook express?
> > >
> > >
> > >Hello All,
> > >I recently started using Outlook. For years I have used Eudora and
> > >love it but, my job requires me to use Outlook. Outlook has allot
> > >of
> > >great features that I could really utilize if learned how. The
> > >thing
> > >I do not like is that when I start to type in my address in the,
> > >TO,
> > >field why won't it finish my address for me? I do not know all my
> > >addresses off the top of my head so this makes e- mailing a little
> >difficult.
> > >A coworker showed me Outlook Express today and that looks to be a
> > >very easy program to use.
> > >I just thought I would ask what do some of you prefer? If the
> > >address
> > >should be automatic and I am doing something wrong  I would surely
> > >appreciate any suggestions you may have.
> > >
> > >Thank you,
> > >Angie
> > >
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