Re: Outlook Express Service Change
- From: "Mark Driesenga" <truthobjective@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 12:24:38 -0400
Well, good--that's clear now. See, since I don't use Hotmail, I'm not up on
that sort of thing. so, for me to all of a sudden come across something on an
email list, obviously, knowing how easy it is to spoof anyone at anytime for
anything at all, what exactly am I supposed to think? That's why I was wanting
more info--often times they'll actually post something on an official blog or
website or something. I personally could care less about Hotmail--I've always
hated it, frankly. but, it just strikes me as odd that all of a sudden, here's
this email aledgedly from Microsoft on an email list. and is there anything
about it as far as I know from official news sources or from Microsoft
themselves? Sorry if I came off harsh, but there are days where I have to
scratch my head and wonder about Microsoft. :) Don't mind me if I do that--I'm
perfectly harmless. lol :)
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----- Original Message -----
From: Ryan MacIsaac
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 9:44 AM
Subject: RE: Outlook Express Service Change
The message about Outlook Express is a legitimate message from Microsoft.
Microsoft is phasing out support for Outlook Express and as of June 30, you
will no longer be able to use OE to access a Hotmail account. You will still be
able to use OE as your e-mail client. You will just not be able to use it to
access your Hotmail account.
Finally, Microsoft has announced plans to phase out support for Outlook
Express. They intend to replace it with a version of Windows Mail. Outlook
Express will still be around for awhile, so there should be no panic about not
being able to use it.
Ryan
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Mark Driesenga
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 10:20 AM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Outlook Express Service Change
Ok, where on www.microsoft.com or www.hotmail.com or www.msn.com is this
notice? I'm pretty sure they'd post it somewhere instead of just emailing. If
it's that important, they should post it. Also, where's the news release on
this? Why hasn't this been made public? The other option is that they're
saying that the old Hotmail, before all the ads, is going away, which is far
more likely. but, the way they're doing this seems a bit odd to me, and trust
me, I can't help but be skeptical! There's a lot of crap on Hotmail, which is
one reason I use Gmail. Ya never know if it is indeed from Microsoft or not.
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----- Original Message -----
From: Katherine Schulz
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 8:41 AM
Subject: Re: Outlook Express Service Change
I don't think it's fake, I've been getting messages regarding the change
for sometime now. I have asked them questions regarding use of a screen reader
and their service and have hearding nothing from them in response. I have a
contract with Qwest, my phone company, for service with MSN. I'm not sure what
I should do. I don't know if they would let me out of the contract if I can't
use the service.
Katherine
----- Original Message -----
From: Mark Driesenga
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 5:36 AM
Subject: Re: Outlook Express Service Change
"Dear Outlook Express customer"? Sounds fake to me.
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----- Original Message -----
From: Katherine Schulz
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 11:08 PM
Subject: Fw: Outlook Express Service Change
I received this notice tonight. Has anyone received this and does
anyone know anything about whether the new service is compatible with Jaws? I
wonder how difficult this will be to use and if there will be a lot to learn?
Katherine
----- Original Message -----
From: Microsoft Outlook Express team
To: katherineschulz6266@xxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 8:12 PM
Subject: Outlook Express Service Change
Dear Microsoft Outlook Express customer,
Thank you for using Microsoft® Outlook® Express. Our
information indicates that you use Outlook Express to access a Windows LiveT
Hotmail® e-mail account via a protocol called DAV (Distributed Authoring and
Versioning protocol). DAV, like POP3 or IMAP, is the way that a mail client
communicates with a web-based mail server.
As a valued customer, we want to provide advanced
notice that as of June 30, 2008, Microsoft is disabling the DAV protocol and
you will no longer be able to access your Hotmail Inbox via Outlook Express. As
an alternative, we recommend that you download Windows Live Mail, a free
desktop e-mail client that has the familiarity of Outlook Express and much
more. This next generation of free e-mail software will allow you to easily
manage multiple e-mail accounts-including Windows Live Hotmail, plus other
e-mail accounts that support POP3/IMAP. Better yet, Windows Live Mail
integrates well with other Windows Live services, and downloads in minutes.
After you provide your user name and password, you will automatically be linked
to your Hotmail account, providing continued access to your email and contacts.
We encourage you to download Windows Live Mail at
http://getlive.com/wlmail/overview.
And, to make your transition smoother, we've provided
answers to frequently asked questions below.
Again, thank you for your use of Outlook Express and
we are confident that you'll be just as delighted with the new Windows Live
Mail.
Your Windows Live Mail team
Frequently asked questions:
Why are we disabling DAV?
DAV is a legacy protocol that is not well suited for
client access to large inboxes. Over time, as we've provided more e-mail
storage to our users-and now offer 5GB inboxes for free-a more efficient access
protocol is needed.
What are we replacing DAV with?
We have developed a new, much more efficient protocol
called DeltaSynch that is far superior to DAV especially for large e-mail
inboxes. It enables email clients to only download changes since the last time
the client polled the email server for changes. This is much more efficient and
high performing than having to download all the headers in every folder as is
the case with DAV.
Is DeltaSynch compatible with Outlook Express?
The new protocol unfortunately is NOT supported by
Outlook Express and support would require too many changes to the Outlook
Express software.
Is there a different or new mail client I can try
that uses DeltaSynch?
Microsoft is providing Windows Live Mail, a free
e-mail client that has the familiarity of Outlook Express and much more. This
free, next generation email client enables users to easily manage multiple
e-mail accounts including Windows Live Hotmail and other e-mail accounts that
support POP3/IMAP. Windows Live Mail also integrates well with other Windows
Live services, is optimized to work with Windows Live Hotmail, and offers:
a.. Offline mail
b.. Windows Live Hotmail account aggregation for
those users with multiple Hotmail accounts
c.. Account aggregation for POP and IMAP mail
accounts
d.. Rich photo-sharing capabilities
e.. Advanced search via integration with Desktop
Search
f.. Safety tools (Anti-Virus scanning,
anti-phishing, anti-spam features across aggregated accounts for customers who
do not have an Anti-Virus product)
g.. Integration with Windows Live services
including Windows Live Spaces
h.. RSS (Real Simple Syndication) feed aggregation
i.. Ability to send SMS (short message service)
text to a mobile phone from Windows Live Mail
Where can I download the new Windows Live Mail client?
You can download the new client at
http://getlive.com/wlmail/overview.
Microsoft respects your privacy. To learn more,
please read our online Privacy Statement.
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