RE: Outlook 2007, JAWS 11

  • From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 08:02:04 -0400

Sue, 

 

If I understand your suggestion correctly the result is that you are no
longer presented with grouping options. What, then, are you left with? How
are the messages organized after you do this?

 

Here's a related question. The messages in my inbox are ordered the way I'm
accustomed to, with the most recent on the bottom. In another folder where I
direct messages from this list, they're also organized chronologically, but
this time the most recent message is on top. In yet a third folder, all the
messages I've sent appear first, and only then do other people's messages
appear in chronological order from top to bottom. Telling Outlook to group
by date doesn't change either of these last two folders. Is there a way to
gain consistency throughout the folders? does the method you describe
accomplish this?

 

I hope most of these concerns will be seen as JAWS issues. A person looking
at an Outlook screen will see right away what is happening and what is
needed. JAWS doesn't make the process intuitive, but the suggestions I've
received from listers have helped me greatly in using JAWS to navigate the
application. 

 

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From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Sue B
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 7:17 AM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Outlook 2007, JAWS 11

 

Another way to deal with switching folders in Outlook is to press CTRL + Y.
This is the Go To Folder Command. You select the folder you want to go to
from the list and then press ENTER. That lands you in that folder's list of
messages. That business about having to select the folder by pressing ENTER
if you go to the folder list tree view with F6 isn't a JAWS problem, it is
just the way that Outlook 2007 behaves, very inconveniently.

Also, there is a way to turn off all that grouping nonsense. When you are in
the Inbox, pull down the View menu with ALT + V. Go down to Customize
Current view and open that selection's sub-menu. Then select Customize
Current View. This puts a dialog box on the screen with a number of buttons
in it. TAB to the one labeled: Group By and click it with the SPACEBAR. Now
the Group By dialog is on the screen. The first control is a Checkbox
called: Automatically Group according to arrangement. Uncheck that check
box. and then press ENTER. You'll be back to the Customize View: Messages
dialog. TAB to the OK Button and click it and your done. The messages no
longer tell you that they are grouped by date or last week or any of that
mess.

Sue B.

On 4/13/2010 12:02 AM, Dave Carlson wrote: 

Becky,

 

Adrian points out something that I failed to mention. Outlook (unlike
Outlook Express) is rather weird in how the folders and lists inside the
folders are navigated. Not sure if this is a function of how JAWS does or
does not work, but it's worth mentioning.

 

In Outlook 2007 (and I believe to a similar extent 2003) you would be better
off using F6 to jump back/forth between the folder view and the list view.
One reason is that using Tab will get you all scrambled up in a set of query
buttons and edit fields and it's hard to get out.

 

So use F6 to jump between the list view and the folder view.

 

Now here's where JAWS seems to not help us much:

 

You're in the Inbox, and looking at your messages.

You press f6 to go to the folder view and you're sitting on the inbox
folder.

You arrow down to another folder such as Sent Items.

You press F6 and you end up in the inbox list again.

 

What happens is that Outlook does not change the list view just because you
move to another folder in the folder view.

 

Here's what you need to learn to do:

 

In the folder view, when you want to do anything with a folder (such as look
at the contents or delete it) you absolutely must press the Enter key on the
folder.

Then you will automatically be in the list for that folder.

 

That's how to go to a different folder.

 

Perhaps this is why you've "lost" your messages?

 

Dave

 

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Becky Tsurumoto <mailto:panache71@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>  

To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 17:41

Subject: Outlook 2007, JAWS 11

 

Hello,

 

I went through my options for handling email.

Auto save in Inbox is checked, but my read messages still disappear from the
Inbox after exiting Outlook.

 

I created one new folder.  My read messages are not in the new folder or
anywhere else.

 

Becky

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