RE: Objects in Word?
- From: Adrian Spratt <Adrian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 20:35:23 -0400
I believe you will solve the problem is you turn off word wrap. I think
that's what it's called. If you can't find it, write back and I'll look
through Notepad's file menus, unless someone else writes in first. The other
solution is to copy the entire text from Notepad and paste it back into MS
word. Although it didn't work for me, it might on your system. As I said,
the method did work on WordPerfect.
Thanks for your vivid thoughts about the blind character, Robert, in
"Cathedral." A few years ago I rewrote the story from Robert's point of
view. I kept the dialog the same, but looking at every action from his
perspective makes a huge difference.
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From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Brandon Keith
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 8:15 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Objects in Word?
Ahh, thank you, but: I find notepad cuts off some lines when I arrow down,
so I don't use it. (so when I read it sometimes cuts off a line) so I need
to just do read all to hear everything on one line. Is there a way to fix
this so Jaws always reads the full line with the up and down arrow?
As for the blind guy in Cathedral: When I read that I didn't think Carver
knew what he was talking about, so I went through and fixed all his
misconceptions with my annotations then brought it into my English 1B class
and the teacher asked my opinion after everyone talked about it, so I read
the list. After I finished listing the ton of things that were wrong with
that blind guy's depiction, one of the kids asked me how I knew so much
about blindness and they wouldn't believe I was blind (even though I wear
headphones and carry a white cane and don't take any paper handouts in
class). But if you take the blind guy and treat carver like he knew what he
was talking about (and the blind guy was just putting on an act with those
sighted people), the book becomes very sexual and I got kind of weirded out
that that blind guy was taking so much advantage of those sighted people. :P
But I do agree that because most sighted people don't get that that
depiction was so wrong it was really bad Carver published that story. (Bad
Lish!) It really puts a bad connotation on blindness .
I'm just thinking I should write a fictional book with the blind guy as the
character and not tell the reader he's blind till it pops up in conversation
or something. Just to show sighted people that we really aren't that much
different than them. (Just omit sight from the book, or have a low vision
character and have vague visual descriptions).
I'm not a English major, but if anyone is, I think if you wrote a book like
this, it will become a classic. (and if it is done well ABC and all those
big channels will pick you up).
Thank you and sorry for my long OT...
Brandon Keith
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From: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 7:43 AM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Objects in Word?
Brandon,
I begin by saying I rarely use MS Word, preferring WordPerfect, and that I'm
using MS Word 2003 with JAWS 11. A few observations.
1. I'm finding JAWS reads through the original MS word text without getting
stuck.
2. I can get a cleaner version by copying the text (control-a for select all
and control-c for copy) and pasting the result with control-v into MS's
Notepad. The advantage of Notepad is that it removes all extraneous codes.
You might want to try it.
3. After reading through a few paragraphs in the Notepad document, I tried
to copy that text back into MS Word. for some reason, it wouldn't accept it,
even though that same text copied nicely into WordPerfect.
4. In the original MS Word document, I got all kinds of garbage when I
listed the objects with control-shift-o. As you found, the text boxes didn't
read. However, as I've explained, I didn't have the same difficulty you had
reading through the document, and it got even easier with Notepad.
5. Before each number, which I assume is a page reference, the text here has
the word "Where." Is that true with your copy? Strange.
It's irrelevant to the list, but I'd love to know what you think about
Carver's story "Cathedral." I find his depiction of the Robert character
distressing.
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From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Brandon Keith
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 9:48 AM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Objects in Word?
OK, so those settings didn't fix anything. What I think is going on is Jaws
thinks the block quotes are tables and is just reading the same row over and
over again. I can give you an example attached. If one just reads through
that on the constant read they should encounter what I'm talking about.
Thank you,
Brandon Keith
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From: Brandon Keith
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 7:20 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Objects in Word?
Yes, that is what I thought, but graphical pages don't act like these. It
usually happens when I'm reading a quote: It reads the quote and keeps on
reading the quote till I stop reading and down arrow to being out of the
quote after which it announces the exiting of an object. After that I'm out
of the object and am able to keep on reading normally till the next large
quote. I'll try these settings and see if that helps. Thank you,
Brandon Keith
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From: Farfar Carlson
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 6:41 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Objects in Word?
Brandon,
Sounds like each scanned page is just a graphical image being shown as a
picture in MS-Word. These will all be objects, and to a sighted person would
look just like a page with text. Unfortunately you'll have to use some OCR
software to recognize these pages, and depending on the quality of the
scanning, might not read well.
You might be better off scanning in the original pages from the book.
Dave Created in the Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Jose, California
----- Original Message -----
From: Brandon Keith
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 17:05
Subject: Objects in Word?
Hello, my school scans in books for me to read, but for some odd reason just
about all the books when placed into Word have objects. The amount of
objects ranges from 12 too 1194. The latter document is very slow to read
and sometimes gets stuck in an object and reads the same page over and over.
Then in other cases it skips a whole page and there is no way for me to get
to that page except to search for it with the find command. I told the guy
who scans about this problem, but he was rather confused and has no clue
what I'm talking about... Any help would be welcome! Thank you,
Brandon Keith
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