Re: Objects in Word?
- From: "Brandon Keith" <brandonboy13@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 17:14:46 -0700
Ahh, thank you, but:
I find notepad cuts off some lines when I arrow down, so I don't use it. (so
when I read it sometimes cuts off a line) so I need to just do read all to hear
everything on one line.
Is there a way to fix this so Jaws always reads the full line with the up and
down arrow?
As for the blind guy in Cathedral:
When I read that I didn't think Carver knew what he was talking about, so I
went through and fixed all his misconceptions with my annotations then brought
it into my English 1B class and the teacher asked my opinion after everyone
talked about it, so I read the list. After I finished listing the ton of things
that were wrong with that blind guy's depiction, one of the kids asked me how I
knew so much about blindness and they wouldn't believe I was blind (even though
I wear headphones and carry a white cane and don't take any paper handouts in
class).
But if you take the blind guy and treat carver like he knew what he was talking
about (and the blind guy was just putting on an act with those sighted people),
the book becomes very sexual and I got kind of weirded out that that blind guy
was taking so much advantage of those sighted people. :P
But I do agree that because most sighted people don't get that that depiction
was so wrong it was really bad Carver published that story. (Bad Lish!) It
really puts a bad connotation on blindness .
I'm just thinking I should write a fictional book with the blind guy as the
character and not tell the reader he's blind till it pops up in conversation or
something. Just to show sighted people that we really aren't that much
different than them. (Just omit sight from the book, or have a low vision
character and have vague visual descriptions).
I'm not a English major, but if anyone is, I think if you wrote a book like
this, it will become a classic. (and if it is done well ABC and all those big
channels will pick you up).
Thank you and sorry for my long OT...
Brandon Keith
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From: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 7:43 AM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Objects in Word?
Brandon,
I begin by saying I rarely use MS Word, preferring WordPerfect, and that I'm
using MS Word 2003 with JAWS 11. A few observations.
1. I'm finding JAWS reads through the original MS word text without getting
stuck.
2. I can get a cleaner version by copying the text (control-a for select all
and control-c for copy) and pasting the result with control-v into MS's
Notepad. The advantage of Notepad is that it removes all extraneous codes. You
might want to try it.
3. After reading through a few paragraphs in the Notepad document, I tried to
copy that text back into MS Word. for some reason, it wouldn't accept it, even
though that same text copied nicely into WordPerfect.
4. In the original MS Word document, I got all kinds of garbage when I listed
the objects with control-shift-o. As you found, the text boxes didn't read.
However, as I've explained, I didn't have the same difficulty you had reading
through the document, and it got even easier with Notepad.
5. Before each number, which I assume is a page reference, the text here has
the word "Where." Is that true with your copy? Strange.
It's irrelevant to the list, but I'd love to know what you think about Carver's
story "Cathedral." I find his depiction of the Robert character distressing.
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From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Brandon Keith
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 9:48 AM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Objects in Word?
OK, so those settings didn't fix anything.
What I think is going on is Jaws thinks the block quotes are tables and is just
reading the same row over and over again. I can give you an example attached.
If one just reads through that on the constant read they should encounter what
I'm talking about.
Thank you,
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From: Brandon Keith
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 7:20 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Objects in Word?
Yes, that is what I thought, but graphical pages don't act like these.
It usually happens when I'm reading a quote:
It reads the quote and keeps on reading the quote till I stop reading and down
arrow to being out of the quote after which it announces the exiting of an
object. After that I'm out of the object and am able to keep on reading
normally till the next large quote.
I'll try these settings and see if that helps.
Thank you,
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From: Farfar Carlson
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 6:41 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Objects in Word?
Brandon,
Sounds like each scanned page is just a graphical image being shown as a
picture in MS-Word. These will all be objects, and to a sighted person would
look just like a page with text.
Unfortunately you'll have to use some OCR software to recognize these pages,
and depending on the quality of the scanning, might not read well.
You might be better off scanning in the original pages from the book.
Dave
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----- Original Message -----
From: Brandon Keith
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 17:05
Subject: Objects in Word?
Hello,
my school scans in books for me to read, but for some odd reason just about
all the books when placed into Word have objects. The amount of objects ranges
from 12 too 1194.
The latter document is very slow to read and sometimes gets stuck in an
object and reads the same page over and over. Then in other cases it skips a
whole page and there is no way for me to get to that page except to search for
it with the find command.
I told the guy who scans about this problem, but he was rather confused and
has no clue what I'm talking about...
Any help would be welcome!
Thank you,
Brandon Keith
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