RE: OE Silences
- From: "Nicol Oosthuizen" <NOosthuizen@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 12:14:21 +0200
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I also use the method of pressing escape and then decide what to do with
a message. I also have tried the method of pressing control+d within a
message to delete it and open the next message instantly. But the
disadvantage of that is that I don't hear the message subject and name
of sender. When I press control+d within a message jaws is silent. If I
then press insert+down arrow jaws reads the body of the next opened
message. I wonder if it is possible to script jaws so that when you
press control+d within a message jaws reads the sender's name as well as
the subject and then reads the message body.Because I use the method
yardbird is using, pressing escape to close each message.
Then I delete it, then jaws reads to me the subject and sender's name of
the next message. I also use insert+up arrow for this.
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Yardbird
Sent: 29 April 2007 01:08 AM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: OE Silences
Hi Jim,
Of course it is. What I sincerely wonder is whether the people who
delete
from within their open messages know that this is sort of a convenience
shortcut? Or did someone teach them that this is the basic way to handle
your incoming email? Because on this list, it often sounds as if people
may
have been taught this move by someone, and not realize that it's a very
handy thing to know how to do, but it's not the basic routine. Again, as
always, I'm not saying it's no good. I'm just saying, it's a shortcut,
and
not one I've ever found particularly enticing, even. But that's just me.
Can
anyone explain if this is simply how someone taught them to use Outlook
Express and Outlook in some class, or something like that?
Thanks.
Because
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Williams" <jwbr33694@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 3:23 PM
Subject: RE: OE Silences
Yardbird,
I use exactly the same method as you and its a breeze.
Jim Williams
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of Yardbird
Sent: 28 April 2007 22:46
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: OE Silences
Hi guys,
I'm aware that those of you who prefer your method of going through your
new
messages the way you've described (deleting an open message from within
it
in order to automatically open the next message) may just dismiss this
thought, and that's okay. But I've used a simpler, more manual method
forever and am perfectly happy with it, and so I wouldn't even know if
this
particular glitch was happening if I were to install the latest update.
And that is, when I am in my OE Inbox and its list of received messages,
I
open any message I wish to read same as anyone does. Then, no matter
whether
I want to delete it, or keep it around for a while before deciding what
to
do with it, or move it to one of the subfolders I've created under Inbox
in
the tree folder view, I press Escape and it closes. Now, if I want to
delete
it, I press the delete key. If I want to move it somewhere for storage,
I
press Control alt V and move it. If I want to keep it in my Inbox for a
while to look at again later, I leave it be. And then I arrow down one
step
to the next unopened message, and press Enter to open it.
Now, if this sounds like an awful lot of trouble to those of you who are
saying your favorite feature doesn't work well enough anymore, it isn't
any
trouble at all. A single flick of the finger on this key, and that key,
and
that's all. Fast as lightning. And no problems with whether Jaws is
performing that automated feature nicely or not.
That's all. I don't want to start some kind of controversy over bout how
there are a million ways to do things in Windows or Jaws, or whatever it
is
that gets people flaming you when you describe an alternate method of
doing
something. I'm just saying, a person could do this, if they felt like
it.
Let a hundred flowers bloom in the courtyard, and all that. Two extra
points
for anyone who recognizes the reference. :-)
Peace, love and Happy Cinco de Mayo.----- Original Message -----
From: "Vicky Collins" <v-collins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 2:09 PM
Subject: Re: OE Silences
I'm not sure if you saw my message of last night where I talked about a
similar problem with OE. So, just in case, I'll ask to make sure. When
you
get that silence after hitting the delete key, are you waiting several
seconds, say fifteen or twenty, to see if speech does start?
Vicky Collins
v-collins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <A.Spratt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 4:37 PM
Subject: OE Silences
I've had few of the problems some JAWS users have reported with JAWS 8,
except for little annoyances like JAWS saying buttons aren't available
when,
in fact, they are. However, this latest JAWS update has created a new
problem in OE. When I go down a list of incoming messages, beginning
with
the earliest received, JAWS goes silent after the second or third
message I
delete. I'm referring to the process of reading a message, deleting it,
and
having the next one open. To get JAWS speaking again, I find I need to
press alt-tab out of the message before going back in.
This experience of JAWS going silent is erratic. Sometimes JAWS does
read
the next message.
One more factor. When I go into the task manager with
alt-control-delete,
I'm finding that this updated version of JAWS seems to be using even
more
memory than previous JAWS 8 updates. After I close JAWS to get its
memory
usage back to a basic level, the OE silence problem occurs less
frequently,
though it's still present.
Agreed, I should report the problem to FS, but I'm wondering if others
are
experiencing this same behavior with JAWS 8.0.2107.
A.S.
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