Re: Not getting Character creation with new Jaws update
- From: Yardbird <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 13:33:50 -0700
Hi Joe,
I'll take a look at this procedure, to see what it looks like. Thanks.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Roeder, Joe" <Jroeder@xxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 1:24 PM
Subject: RE: Not getting Character creation with new Jaws update
If you know the ASCII value of the character you can enter it by turning the
NumLock on, holding down the Alt key and tapping in the number. When you
release the Alt key the ASCII number is entered directly into your
application, which may or may not ignore it.
For example, the symbol MU is ASCII 230 and the symbol that shows up is µ.
Play with this in Notepad and you can find a lot of symbols. Or you can do
an internet search for ASCII code tables. Here's one that seems to have
them in 3 formatted tables:
http://www.ascii-code.com/
The ASCII numbers are the decimal numbers in the first column and the
symbols are in the fifth column.
Enjoy.
Joe Roeder
Senior Access Technology Specialist
voice: (703) 310-0524
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Yardbird
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 2:26 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Not getting Character creation with new Jaws update
Bruce,
I don't know anything about the Internet having something to do with this. I
do know that there's a function in Word itself that offers a whole rich
trove of symbols-- foreign language marks and special characters,
mathematical and scientific symbols, a huge assortment that,if it looks
anything like it used to, is a spread of many items arranged either by table
or by tab page. It's right there in Word. And there may be some Jaws power
user who actually knows how to display this function and manipulate it. But
it was so catch-as-catch-can for me early on with Jaws that I gave up even
trying, and was delighted when someone on a list like this one explained the
Jaws feature that would bring up a limited but for me very adequate list of
symbols you could insert beginning with the keystroke Insert Num Row 4,
which I mentioned in my first post on this subject. my problem has been not
that I'm unaware of that feature in jaws, but simply that it won't work for
me in Word 2000 using J
aws 10, basic version or latest update. I can bring up the list, so I'm not
saying the key combo doesn't work anymore. But if I arrow to a character I'd
like to insert at the cursor location and press enter,nothing at all is
inserted. This has nothing to do, either, with wishing I knew the coding
trick that will make jaws speak in a foreign language when it encounters
one. I have Jaws set up for that, and it works fine. This has nothing to do
with that. I'm not even sure whether if I could insert the proper characters
at certain points that Jaws would recognize the word as foreign and switch
languages to read it. And I dont' really care very much, although that would
certainly be cool. but it's not what I've been asking about.reqally ,
althoughlangage
I hope this clarifies something.
From: "Bruce Toews" <Bruce@xxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 11:06 AM
Subject: Re: Not getting Character creation with new Jaws update
I'm not sure where an actual list exists on the Net. I got mine from a book
on Word 2002.
Bruce
On Fri, 13 Mar 2009 09:56:37 -0700, "Mike & Barbara"
<mb69mach1@xxxxxxxxxxx> said:
> Hi Bruce,
>
> I for one never knew that there are keystrokes to generate symbols.
> Would
> you please tell me & others where we can find a list of these keystrokes?
> Yours or or the help from anyone else with this matter will be greatly
> appreciated. Thanks much, take care.
>
> Mike
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bruce Toews" <Bruce@xxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 9:24 AM
> Subject: Re: Not getting Character creation with new Jaws update
>
>
> Insert+numrow 4 brings up a list of some common special symbols. This
> list is by no means exhaustive, and if one wishes to use these symbols
> on some kind of a regular basis, one would do well to learn the
> keystrokes within Word to generate them. As one example,
> control+apostrophe, followed by the letter e, yields an e-acute.
>
> Bruce
>
>
> On Fri, 13 Mar 2009 18:09:55 +0200, "Negoslav Sabev"
> <negi4a@xxxxxxxxx>
> said:
> > Insert+4 from the number row?
> >
> > Negoslav
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Gene" <gwilson@xxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 5:52 PM
> > Subject: RE: Not getting Character creation with new Jaws update
> >
> >
> > > Joel,
> > >
> > > There is a key combination for a JAWS dictionary of symbols from
> > > which you may copy the ones you need into your document.
> > > Unfortunately, I use it so rarely I don't remember what that silly
> > > combination is.
> > >
> > > With regard to your pronunciation problem, there is, I believe, a
> > > setting in JAWS whereby it will recognize languages, other than
> > > English, automatically.
> > >
> > > I hope I've been a little helpful.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > On Behalf Of Yardbird
> > > Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 5:31 PM
> > > To: JFW List
> > > Subject: Not getting Character creation with new Jaws update
> > >
> > > After reading the list of bug fixes and improvements in this
> > > update on the FS Web page about it, I was looking forward to again
> > > being able to create characters with diacritical marks and other
> > > things like the inverted question mark and inverted exclamation
> > > point in Spanish, in my word 2000.
> > > Sadly, what I expected hasn't come to pass. My attempts to produce
> > > an accented lowercase a result in nothing at all, just like before
> > > I installed the update. Yes, of course I restarted when the
> > > installation was complete, as instructed by the installation
> > > wizard.
> > >
> > > Could this be because my way of creating such characters is to use
> > > the Insert num row 4 command to get a list of such things to
> > > choose from and insert in the text? I haven't used the actual Word
> > > character function for years. It was difficult enough for me when
> > > I could see it, and with Jaws I never could figure it out at all,
> > > so I really welcomed it when someone on a list like this told
> > > everyone about the Insert 4 deal.
> > >
> > > For comparison, I can and do create such characters when I'm
> > > typing an email in my Outlook Express 6. Let me try that right
> > > here and see if it still works. I'll type the Spanish word for
> > > pharmacy with an accented a in the second syllable. or try to,
> > > anyway. Farmácia. yep. I got myself the a acute that I wanted. In
> > > Spanish, it would now have the accent on that second syllable and
> > > the last part would sound like see ya, not shuh. even though I
> > > can't figure out how to trick jaws into saying it right, at the
> > > moment.
> > > So
> > > Insert A still exists in this updated version. But it still won't
> > > work for me in Word anymore, which I think it used to do in
> > > Version 9 but gave up in Version 10. Maybe I misremember?
> > >
> > > Any helpful information will be appreciated. yes, I stick with
> > > Word 2000 on purpose, for certain reasons, so if that's the
> > > problem, that Jaws 10 doesn't fully "support" Word 2000, I'll have
> > > to let it go.
> > >
> > > Joel
> > >
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