Re: New update

  • From: "Debbie Scales" <debbie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 13:23:10 -0400

Jerry, I don't know.  But maybe they just aren't updating the information at 
the top of the script file.
Let me know what you find out.
Debbie
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jerry Neufeld" <jerry.neufeld@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 1:07 PM
Subject: Re: New update


Hi again Debbie.

I'll have to talk to John Carson at FS about this. I have not looked at the
Word script source file but the beginning of it certainly has not changed as
you can see from the lines I include below. Nor have any of my many scripts
appended to the MS Word file been touched. If they have inserted new scripts
or modified ones in MS Word.jss, the update procedure would have require
recompiling of the file.

Here are the first few lines of my Microsoft Word.jss files, identical in
all users and in jerry.

;ms word.jss 7.1 beta 04-09-06

;Copyright 1995-2006 Freedom Scientific, Inc.

; JAWS 7.10.xx

;Script file for Microsoft Word 2000, 2002, and 2003.

Include "gndef.jsh" ;G. Neufeld's globals

include "MSOffice.jsm"



What do you think?



Jerry





----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Debbie Scales" <debbie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 11:55 AM
Subject: Re: New update


> Jerry you said:
> wonder if the updating procedure is sufficiently sophisticated to alter
> some scripts in a source file while leaving the remainder intact.
> Jerry, if it is, then I will truly consider this jaws update to be one of
> the greatest things that FS has ever done,  ha-ha.  I too find it odd that
> no changes were made to the default, but maybe they were concentrating on
> fixing problems in the individual applications and those didn't involve
> any
> changes to the default?
> What about your word jss file?  I read through the list of fixes in the
> update, and there definitely WERE several changes made for Word.
> Debbie
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jerry Neufeld" <jerry.neufeld@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 11:36 AM
> Subject: Re: New update
>
>
> Hi Debbie.
>
> Well, although the default.jss file in all users is dated 4/12/2006, from
> all that I can see, the source file is one I modified a week ago as
> indicated on the top line. It appears to be identical to my own
> default.jss
> file in my own user files. I have looked through it and find no
> differences
> in the default source code although there must be, given the over 70 fixes
> there were.
>
> My concern about window loader updates, convenient as they are, is that
> those of us who do a lot of scripting have no way to know which files have
> been updated. In my case, for example, I have over 200 either new or
> modified script files in the default source file, almost as many for MS
> Word. Imagine the agonizing hours of work I have each time a new update or
> release comes, inserting all my scripts.
>
> I wonder if the updating procedure is sufficiently sophisticated to alter
> some scripts in a source file while leaving the remainder intact. If so,
> it
> would explain the virtual identical appearance of my April 7th
> modifications
> and the new file.
>
> All very curious.
>
> Jerry
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Debbie Scales" <debbie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 11:18 AM
> Subject: Re: New update
>
>
>> Jerry, what makes you think the default file hasn't been touched?  I
>> don't
>> have a prior default jss to compare this one too.  What I am wondering
>> though is if you had ever made any changes to the default jss file before
>> you installed the new build?  If you did this is what I believe may be
>> happening.
>> Remember now that when you make changes to a script file, it is saved it
>> into your own settings enu folder.  So now we install the update and it
>> updates the default file in the ALL USERS settings enu.
>> I don't think the update changed anything in our individual settings enu
>> folder.  But when jaws loads scripts, it first looks in YOUR settings enu
>> folder.  So it might be loading the default jss you have in your settings
>> enu, not the updated one from the all users folder.
>> Did that make any sense at all, grin?  I guess what I am saying is look
>> in
>> your settings enu folder and see if you do indeed have a default jss file
>> in
>> there.  If you do, then look at the default jss file in the all users
>> settings enu and see if you find new changes there.  That one has a
>> modified
>> date of 4/12, as if they were indeed updating it up until the very last
>> minute they released the update, ha ha.
>> Debbie
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Jerry Neufeld" <jerry.neufeld@xxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 10:04 AM
>> Subject: Re: New update
>>
>>
>> Hello Clark & others.
>>
>> The error reported at the very end of the updating process is erroneous,
>> I
>> believe. From here, at least, the update seems to have been correctly
>> installed, despite the error I got at the end like many others.
>>
>> Although I have noticed numerous differences in this newest build, I was
>> surprised to see that the source code for the default files had not been
>> touched. I have not attempted to recompile it, fearing that I may lose
>> hundreds of default scripts. Is there anyone on the list who has the new
>> beta with the default.jss file changed? I'd like very much to know.
>>
>> Jerry
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Playful Heart" <playfulheart@xxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 2:32 AM
>> Subject: Re: New update
>>
>>
>>>I have not been able to install the update either. It says to call
>>>Freedom
>>>Scientific and the item failing to install is a patch.
>>> Has anyone been able to successfully install this update?
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Clark Friedrichs" <1clarkf@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: "JAWS Mailing List" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "JAWS Lite List"
>>> <Jawslite@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 2:55 PM
>>> Subject: New update
>>>
>>>
>>>>I tried the new update procedure for JFW 7.10.  It failed on what
>>>>appears
>>>>to
>>>> be the final step giving the message:
>>>> Beta Update Release 321 install failed
>>>> (or something to that effect
>>>> The error message instructed me to call technical support.  I called
>>>> tech
>>>> support and they knew nothing of what was going on.
>>>> I guess a Beta trouble report is in order.
>>>>
>>>> -----
>>>> Clark Friedrichs / 1clarkf@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>
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