Greetings all, Once upon a time a co-worker told me that the only problem with leading the charge is all of the arrows one gets in the back. I suspect that this is also true with List Management. Nick, I have only been a member of this list for a few months but the friends and information I have gained over this very short time has been very valuable. Many of the JAWS tips which I have learned were questions I was too embarrassed to ask for myself. Thanks for doing a thankless job. Bruce, I do wish you the very best in your new endeavor. Having been in various leadership positions with organizations of the Blind I can tell you that you will never please everyone. With this in mind, just please yourself and everyone else can deal with it. Bruce, would you send me a list of the rules as I do not think I have ever seen one. In parting I am enclosing a short story which should explain the position which Bruce finds himself in. CYS. The Donkey An old man, a boy and a donkey were going to town. The boy rode on the donkey and the old man walked. As they went along they passed some people who remarked it was a shame the old man was walking and the boy was riding. The man and boy thought maybe the critics were right, so they changed positions. Later, they passed some people that remarked, 'What a shame, he makes that little boy walk.' They then decided they both would walk. Soon they passed some more people who thought they were stupid to walk when they had a decent donkey to ride. So, they both rode the donkey. Now they passed some people that shamed them by saying how awful to put such a load on a poor donkey. The boy and man said they were probably right, so they decided to carry the donkey. As they crossed the bridge, they lost their grip on the animal and it fell into the river and drowned. The moral of the story? If you try to please everyone, you might as well kiss your ass good-bye. To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.