Re: Need instructions for Winamp 5.08
- From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 08:09:13 -0700
hi,
yes, I very carefully chose the classic skin, as I think I mentioned in an
earlier post. There's a very slight chance that I may have changed it
accidentally, later, but I don't think I did. I'm partially sighted, and I
didn't notice a different overall appearance in the interface until I got
trapped in that library setting, which caused the little basic interface to
expand into something much larger. But once I managed to exit the program
and relaunch it, it behaved no worse than the way it had at first, when I'm
sure it had the classic skin. So I think that isn't it. I'm still
learning, and eventually I guess I'll figure things out better.
Thanks.
----- Original Message -----
From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 7:35 AM
Subject: Re: Need instructions for Winamp 5.08
When you first installed winamp, did you choose the classic skin mode? If
you didn't that might be part of your problem.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 2:18 AM
Subject: Re: Need instructions for Winamp 5.08
> I'm sorry to say this just doesn't work for me as you describe. Maybe
> there's something wrong with my Jaws 6.0. I hit control P, I hear that
> I'm
> in Preferences, but as I try to move around with my arrow keys or my tab
> key, all I seem to be able to "see" is an item about skins, a couple of
> options I can't figure out in terms of what order they're in or what I'm
> doing. I can only find a Close button with my tab key. I tried to use
> the
> arrow keys as if it were the tree list you describe, but still I hear only
> a
> couple of things about skins, which change so that I don't know where I
> am,
> and that's all.
>
> what you seem to be describing is something like a two-pane help file with
> a
> tree list on the left of topics or books and a pane on the right to move
> into (in a standard arrangement, F6 would accomplsih this, but I know that
> isn't the deal here) to for the text in each book, or something like that?
> Well, that's what I'm imagining, but no dice.
>
> I'll just get up tomorrow and read the basic manual I saved to disk as a
> text file from the ACB Radio site, and see if that clarifies something.
>
> Thanks again.
> instructinasic or maybeershaps.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bruce Toews" <water_drinker@xxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 10:42 PM
> Subject: Re: Need instructions for Winamp 5.08
>
>
> The program is extremely screen-reader-friendly. Hit control+p to get into
> preferences. Explore these preferences by moving up and down the tree
> view. Tabbing around from any item in that tree view will give you options
> associated with that, and you can open some items and get more options.
>
> Bruce
>
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> On Wed, 27 Apr 2005, Yardbird wrote:
>
>> Moti,
>> Thanks, but I do understand these things already. I'm just really
>> uncomfortable not being able to simply explore the entire preferences
>> menu
>> and everything, and make settings the way I'd like to, selectively. I'm
>> aware that the menu structure isn't a conventional Windows menu line,
>> because I've read that and also because it's nearly impossible to figure
>> out
>> by doing the usual thing of pressing alt and expecting to be put in the
>> menu
>> line.
>>
>> If this thing is so beloved by so many blind screen reader jockeys, how
>> do
>> they achieve even some familiarity with its functions, let alone mastery?
>>
>> I'm really perplexed. I'm perfectly able to click on an .mp3 file and
>> play
>> it with Windows Media Player or Real Player, too, and even though I also
>> am
>> mystified by those programs' semi-accessible menus and inscrutable (to
>> me)
>> functions, they're far less obscure than Winamp appears to be. This is
>> like
>> playing music files with a rock or a candy bar or something.
>>
>> Ack. Sorry. Just frustrated.
>>
>> From: "Moti Azrad Musician & Piano-Tuner" <motia@xxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 11:27 PM
>> Subject: Re: Need instructions for Winamp 5.08
>>
>>
>> Hi Daniel,
>>
>> I'm also new with winamp5.08 but I can say some things.
>> Open winamp 5.08
>> press: ctrl+p and then make sure that you are using the classic skin.
>> If not, and you use the modern one, arrow to classic and enter on it.
>> I think that it's enough and you can use every music file that you wish
>> and
>> winamp will be the first to jump and open it.
>>
>> I hope it helps you a little
>>
>> Moti
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: "JFW List" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Jaws Lite"
>> <Jawslite@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 7:14 AM
>> Subject: Need instructions for Winamp 5.08
>>
>>
>>> I just downloaded winamp 5.08 from the winamp4theblind site. And, as I
>>> remembered from an earlier attempt to add Winamp to my software arsenal,
>>> I
>>> can't for the life of me figure out how to operate it except to play an
>>> .mp3
>>> file and use the z, c and x keys for play, pause and stop. But I want
>>> to
>>> explore the menus to get an overview of its functions and adjustments,
>>> and
>>> every time I try to do that I wind up in trouble. Once I somehow
>>> changed
>>> the interface so that it enlarged (I could see this happen) and then
>>> kept
>>> saying I was in the Library, and I couldn't understand the few controls
>>> that
>>> spoke when I tabbed around, and I couldn't exit the area, nor exit the
>>> program, as Alt F4 didn't do anything. Another time, I got stuck in
>>> that
>>> library thing again, but Alt F4 exited for me.
>>>
>>> Anyway, I even managed to blunder my way into the help file, but I
>>> couldn't
>>> navigate this worth a damn, either, no matter how I tried to use what
>>> sounded like a tree or book structure, use F6 to switch panes, or
>>> anything.
>>> It was a Jaws nightmare.
>>>
>>> I don't recall seeing a link for just some instructions for screen
>>> reader
>>> users on that winamp4the blind site, don't know why. Can anyone point
>>> me
>>> to
>>> some way I could read up on how to master this program, which for some
>>> reason is so popular among blind users?
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>> daniel
>>>
>>>
>>>
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