What "virus program"? Give us something useful to work with, please. Dave Carlson Created in the Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Jose, California ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Truong" <davidtruong@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 05:47 Subject: RE: Major problems with the latest Jaws and Firefox 4.0 and Google Reader Hi, I had the same problems with Jaws 12 being really unresponsive. It turns out that my virus program was slowing it down. I just told my virus program to exclude all FS directories when doing scan's etc and now it's just as responsive as Jaws ever was. David Truong. Phone: 0400 557 511 Email: blindboxer@xxxxxxxxx davidtruong@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx MS Messenger: davidtruong@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/Changa181 Skype: blindboxer1967 -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of CrisMunoz54 Sent: Friday, 13 May 2011 9:08 AM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: Major problems with the latest Jaws and Firefox 4.0 and Google Reader I have the same issue with Jaws going silent and the alt+tab issue. My computer was getting so slow that I was even thinking of taking it in to be looked at, but I loaded the JFW 11.0.7467 instead and the difference was like night and day. Not only does Firefox work fine (the Application Mode On thing not withstanding), but my pc jus tfeels a whole lot crisper and responsive. Jaws 12 was slowing my machine down like bloatware would. Not just in the browsers either. Everything in general. More importantly, Firefox isn't crashing every 20 or 30 minutes on me now. Of course, going back to Jaws 11 means I have to deal with some issues that had been fixed with later JFW releases, but man, Jaws 12 was givign me headaches. At least I know it's not just me then. I remember writing FS a while back when the first Jaws 12 was put out and noticed that Firefox was getting really slow really fast. The response I got at that time was that it was a memmory issue with Firefox. maybe it was, but then again, it may have just been Jaws 12 itself. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 3:42 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Major problems with the latest Jaws and Firefox 4.0 and Google Reader I do notice, as do you the overall slower response in web pages with any sub-release of JAWS 12. I also have occasion to load JAWS 11 and can experience the speed difference. I characterize the "slowness" as similar to a web page that hangs for a while before completing, but in the case of JAWS 12 I often have pages that just do not speak until and unless I Alt+Tab out and back in. And I think I've made myself pretty clear on my feelings for JFW 12.0.1158, so enough said on that topic. Dave Composed on a Dell Latitude 630 in the general vicinity of my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area. ----- Original Message ----- From: "CrisMunoz54" <crismunoz54@xxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 15:30 Subject: Major problems with the latest Jaws and Firefox 4.0 and Google Reader Hello list, I have been having all sorts of trouble with Firefox and the latest Jaws 12 release. In particular the Google Reader page. I wanted to share what I'm experiencing and see if it may just be an issue with my machine or if others are dealing with the same problems. I have Google Reader as one of my homepages and when I launch Firefox, Jaws always behaves as though the virtual cursor is turned off. In fact, Jaws will say "Application Mode On". In order to get Jaws to work properly, I have to do an insert+z keystroke command and then Jaws will say "Application Mode off". I'll then be able to go around the page with no problems. This particular issue only started when upgrading the Firefox 4.0 and is still present with the latest Firefox 4.0.1 update. If while in Firefox and I go back to my Google Reader page, either by clicking on the Reader link from another Google site or through my saved bookmark at least 70% of the time, the "Application Mode On" issue comes up. I have noticed a marked increase of instances of Mozilla crashing with this latest Jaws release as well. Again, it happns most often while on the Google Reader page and while in Firefox in general. Either when I go to the Google Reader page, close a link that I had opened from Google Reader or simply by just having the page open or refreshing the page with the insert+escape key command. Upwards of 10 times a day. It would happen every now and then with the earlier versions of Jaws 12, but it has become a constant with the latest JFW rlease. I at first thought it was an issue with Firefox or perhaps a rogue add-on, but I have tried disabling add-ons and plug-ins and Firefox was still crashing left and right. When I use an older version of Jaws (11.0) however, Firefox not only never crashes, but the over all responsiveness of the browser and JFW feel over all snappier and better. With JFW 12, using the browser had become painfully slow either through regular navigating from page to page as well as when trying to refresh a page. Seconds would go by before Jaws would be able to speak. Not to mention the crashing problem. Jaws would outright crash much more frequently too. I don't experience the browser crashing issue in IE8, but the over all sluggishness with JFW 12 is present along with using other applications. I at first thought that I had been infected with a virus or other malware, but with the older version of 11.0, my computer is much, much more responsive. I do however experience the "Application Mode On" issue with JFW 11.0 as well. So maybe it's a Firefox 4.0 thing in regards to this. There are a couple of other problems, but the ones above are what are giving me the most problems. Is anyone else experiencing any of these problems or have any ideas on what may be causing it? Like I said, when using JFW 11.0, a lot of what I mentioned above doesn't happen. All my antivirus and malware stuff is up to date. I was going to shoot an email off to Freedom Scientific, but wanted to get feedback from other Jaws users as well. This is the first time a new Jaws release has given me this much trouble since I don't know when and want to be sure it's perhaps not something on my end. Thanks, Cristobal -- JFW related links: JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/ Scripting mailing list: http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com JFW List instructions: To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw Alternative archives located at: http://n2.nabble.com/JAWS-for-Windows-f2145279.html If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. 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