RE: Major problems with the latest Jaws and Firefox 4.0 and Google Reader

  • From: "Cy Selfridge" <cyselfridge@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 07:43:52 -0600

Gary,
Sadly my friend, you are so correct.
Sorta discourages one to keep on with SMAs doesn't it?
Cy, The Anasazi

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Gary King
Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 3:37 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Major problems with the latest Jaws and Firefox 4.0 and Google
Reader

Cy,
I see from your message that you are hoping that JAWS 13 will fix the 
problems in JAWS 12.  I hope you realize, however, that even if this miracle

does come to pass, you will then be waiting for JAWS 14 to fix the problems 
in JAWS 13.

Gary King
w4wkz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Cy Selfridge" <cyselfridge@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 8:24 PM
Subject: RE: Major problems with the latest Jaws and Firefox 4.0 and Google 
Reader


> You know, reading all of these items is one of the reasons I have not
> installed JAWS 12.
> God, what a waste.
> Perhaps 13 will fix the problems with 12. (hopefully)
> Cy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of Farfar Carlson
> Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 4:42 PM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Major problems with the latest Jaws and Firefox 4.0 and 
> Google
> Reader
>
> I do notice, as do you the overall slower response in web pages with any
> sub-release of JAWS 12. I also have occasion to load JAWS 11 and can
> experience the speed difference.
>
> I characterize the "slowness" as similar to a web page that hangs for a
> while before completing, but in the case of JAWS 12 I often have pages 
> that
> just do not speak until and unless I Alt+Tab out and back in.
>
> And I think I've made myself pretty clear on my feelings for JFW 
> 12.0.1158,
> so enough said on that topic.
>
> Dave
> Composed on a Dell Latitude 630 in the general vicinity of my Audio
> Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "CrisMunoz54" <crismunoz54@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 15:30
> Subject: Major problems with the latest Jaws and Firefox 4.0 and Google
> Reader
>
>
> Hello list,
>
>
>
> I have been having all sorts of trouble with Firefox and the latest Jaws 
> 12
> release. In particular the Google Reader page. I wanted to share what I'm
> experiencing and see if it may just be an issue with my machine or if 
> others
> are dealing with the same problems.
>
>
>
> I have Google Reader as one of my homepages and when I launch Firefox, 
> Jaws
> always behaves as though the virtual cursor is turned off. In fact, Jaws
> will say "Application Mode On". In order to get Jaws to work properly, I
> have to do an insert+z keystroke command and then Jaws will say 
> "Application
> Mode off". I'll then be able to go around the page with no problems. This
> particular issue only started when upgrading the Firefox 4.0 and is still
> present with the latest Firefox 4.0.1 update. If while in Firefox and I go
> back to my Google Reader page, either by clicking on the Reader link from
> another Google site or through my saved bookmark at least 70% of the time,
> the "Application Mode On" issue comes up.
>
>
>
> I have noticed a marked increase of instances of Mozilla crashing with 
> this
> latest Jaws release as well. Again, it happns most often while on the 
> Google
> Reader page and while in Firefox in general. Either when I go to the 
> Google
> Reader page, close a link that I had opened from Google Reader or simply 
> by
> just having the page open or refreshing the page with the insert+escape 
> key
> command. Upwards of 10 times a day. It would happen every now and then 
> with
> the earlier versions of Jaws 12, but it has become a constant with the
> latest JFW rlease. I at first thought it was an issue with Firefox or
> perhaps a rogue add-on, but I have tried disabling add-ons and plug-ins 
> and
> Firefox was still crashing left and right. When I use an older version of
> Jaws (11.0)
>
> however, Firefox not only never crashes, but the over all responsiveness 
> of
> the browser and JFW feel over all snappier and better. With JFW 12, using
> the browser had become painfully slow either through regular navigating 
> from
> page to page as well as when trying to refresh a page. Seconds would go by
> before Jaws would be able to speak. Not to mention the crashing problem.
> Jaws would outright crash much more frequently too.
>
>
>
> I don't experience the browser crashing issue in IE8, but the over all
> sluggishness with JFW 12 is present along with using other applications. I
> at first thought that I had been infected with a virus or other malware, 
> but
> with the older version of 11.0, my computer is much, much more responsive.
>
>
>
> I do however experience the "Application Mode On" issue with JFW 11.0 as
> well. So maybe it's a Firefox 4.0 thing in regards to this.
>
>
>
> There are a couple of other problems, but the ones above are what are
> giving me the most problems. Is anyone else experiencing any of these
> problems or have any ideas on what may be causing it?
>
>
>
> Like I said, when using JFW 11.0, a lot of what I mentioned above doesn't
> happen. All my antivirus and malware stuff is up to date. I was going to
> shoot an email off to Freedom Scientific, but wanted to get feedback from
> other Jaws users as well. This is the first time a new Jaws release has
> given me this much trouble since I don't know when and want to be sure 
> it's
> perhaps not something on my end.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Cristobal
>
>
>
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