With all the concern with MSN Messenger and it's speakability, those who have Windows Messenger, wich is Microsoft Windows version of MSN Messenger, I might recommend using it instead. I have for some time now with no difficulty, no notice of needing to upgrade to yet another version, no ads. A very clean read, and the scripts for hearing what a person says, when they are typing and all the review hot keys that work in MSN Mesenger, work in Windows Messenger too. Just a thought for ya. I'm glad I dropped MSN Messenger. Brad -- To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx