I can't speak for XP home because I have XP Pro. I simply followed the instructions originally posted by Pat WPL. I have found that Insert + Win + F4 does not always work in JAWS 8.0. The problem is that once you execute Insert + Win + F4 and an error message blocks JAWS from closing, you're pretty much stuck. At least with Kill Jaws, I can close JAWS first and respond to the error message later.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 7:46 AM Subject: Re: KillJaws
I see. So this is all about being able to access an error dialogue having to do with one or another application besides Jaws itself. What do you mean by saying that Kill Jaws creates an icon on the desktop? In all of this,what Ithought I learned is that first you create a batch file (which is the onlyoption if you're an XP Home person, as I am). Then you yourself create fromthat new file a desktop icon for which you curate a hotkey. The critical part here is that the kill jaws batch file doesn't itselfcreate a desktop icon, right? You have to do that as part of setting this upfor yourself? Thanks.And again, if there's an emergency key combo offered by Jaws itself, InsertWindows key F4, that will properly unload Jaws even when in a situationwhere Insert F4 alone won't work, why would you need this Kill Jaws setup atall? Not clear about that, yet. Thanks.----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerald Levy" <bwaylimited@xxxxxxxxxxx>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 4:07 AM Subject: Re: KillJaws Kill Jaws creates an icon on the desktop. You can then access theProperties page and assign a shortcut key, something like Alt + Control + K or whatever. Once you close JAWS, you can restart it using your hot key or Run dialog. Once JAWS is running again, you can respond to the send ErrorReport message. If you encounter a system crash, you may still have to restart your computer.----- Original Message ----- From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 6:45 PM Subject: Re: KillJawsGerald,thanks. I'm not sure how often I've been in this exact situation, if ever,but after you and Robert have explained what kind of situation merits the use of this batch command, I'll try to recognize that kind of situation, and I'll have created a way to run the command. Why do you call it a desktop shortcut? If you mean an icon, that I can understand,though if I were without benefit of speech I'd hope to use a unique first letter for the name of the icon so I could activate it. And if what's meant is actually a hotkey, possibly established in the properties for such a shortcut icon, you wouldn't need to be at the desktop to use it. So do you mean the icon, or do you mean a hotkey? Also, in a crash that includes losing speech, what are you supposed to do once you've executed this batch file? Restart your computer, if an actual system crash is what's happened? Or just restart Jaws? And, not trying to besnarkey, but are the people discussing this able to tell whether it's onlyJaws that's failed or if their computer needs rebooting or just one application is shutting down and asking you to send an error message? Ican't read those dialogues if speech goes out, but I can tell whether it'sjust a program that's died on me or the computer's actually hung. thanks. Just trying to figure out exactly what kind of situation this is meant for.----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerald Levy" <bwaylimited@xxxxxxxxxxx>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 3:07 PM Subject: Re: KillJaws Kill Jaws is a desktop shortcut that invokes the XP system utility "taskkill" to forcibly close JAWS after a crash that results in loss of speech. Many times when JAWS crashes, an error message is displayed on screen which blocks JAWS from closing with the normal Insert + F4 command. Kill Jaws eliminates this problem by closing Jaws without having to respond to the error message. To create the shortcut, use the following target address: C:\WINDOWS\system32\taskkill.exe /f /im jfw.exe Hope this helps.----- Original Message ----- From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 4:25 PM Subject: Re: KillJawsGerald, I must have missed something. What is Kill Jaws? thanks.----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerald Levy" <bwaylimited@xxxxxxxxxxx>To: "JFW list" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 12:48 PM Subject: KillJaws I just had a JAWS crash, and Kill Jaws worked like a charm. Very handy when sighted assistance is not available. -- JFW related links: JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/ Scripting mailing list: http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com JFW List instructions: To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. 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