Re: KillJaws
- From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 04:46:16 -0700
I see. So this is all about being able to access an error dialogue having to
do with one or another application besides Jaws itself. What do you mean by
saying that Kill Jaws creates an icon on the desktop? In all of this,what I
thought I learned is that first you create a batch file (which is the only
option if you're an XP Home person, as I am). Then you yourself create from
that new file a desktop icon for which you curate a hotkey.
The critical part here is that the kill jaws batch file doesn't itself
create a desktop icon, right? You have to do that as part of setting this up
for yourself? Thanks.
And again, if there's an emergency key combo offered by Jaws itself, Insert
Windows key F4, that will properly unload Jaws even when in a situation
where Insert F4 alone won't work, why would you need this Kill Jaws setup at
all? Not clear about that, yet. Thanks.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gerald Levy" <bwaylimited@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 4:07 AM
Subject: Re: KillJaws
Kill Jaws creates an icon on the desktop. You can then access the
Properties page and assign a shortcut key, something like Alt + Control + K
or whatever. Once you close JAWS, you can restart it using your hot key or
Run dialog. Once JAWS is running again, you can respond to the send Error
Report message. If you encounter a system crash, you may still have to
restart your computer.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 6:45 PM
Subject: Re: KillJaws
> Gerald,
>
> thanks. I'm not sure how often I've been in this exact situation, if ever,
> but after you and Robert have explained what kind of situation merits the
> use of this batch command, I'll try to recognize that kind of situation,
> and
> I'll have created a way to run the command.
>
> Why do you call it a desktop shortcut? If you mean an icon, that I can
> understand,though if I were without benefit of speech I'd hope to use a
> unique first letter for the name of the icon so I could activate it.
>
> And if what's meant is actually a hotkey, possibly established in the
> properties for such a shortcut icon, you wouldn't need to be at the
> desktop
> to use it. So do you mean the icon, or do you mean a hotkey?
>
> Also, in a crash that includes losing speech, what are you supposed to do
> once you've executed this batch file? Restart your computer, if an actual
> system crash is what's happened? Or just restart Jaws? And, not trying to
> be
> snarkey, but are the people discussing this able to tell whether it's only
> Jaws that's failed or if their computer needs rebooting or just one
> application is shutting down and asking you to send an error message? I
> can't read those dialogues if speech goes out, but I can tell whether it's
> just a program that's died on me or the computer's actually hung.
>
> thanks. Just trying to figure out exactly what kind of situation this is
> meant for.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gerald Levy" <bwaylimited@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 3:07 PM
> Subject: Re: KillJaws
>
>
>
> Kill Jaws is a desktop shortcut that invokes the XP system utility
> "taskkill" to forcibly close JAWS after a crash that results in loss of
> speech. Many times when JAWS crashes, an error message is displayed on
> screen which blocks JAWS from closing with the normal Insert + F4
> command.
> Kill Jaws eliminates this problem by closing Jaws without having to
> respond
> to the error message. To create the shortcut, use the following target
> address:
>
> C:\WINDOWS\system32\taskkill.exe /f /im jfw.exe
>
> Hope this helps.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 4:25 PM
> Subject: Re: KillJaws
>
>
>> Gerald,
>>
>> I must have missed something. What is Kill Jaws?
>>
>> thanks.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Gerald Levy" <bwaylimited@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: "JFW list" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 12:48 PM
>> Subject: KillJaws
>>
>>
>>
>> I just had a JAWS crash, and Kill Jaws worked like a charm. Very handy
>> when
>> sighted assistance is not available.
>>
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