Re: Jaws users look out, touch-screen Windows

  • From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 09:33:32 -0700

Orhan,

I've got no issue with you at all, okay? I don't have an issue with this 
kind of PPL or that kind of PPL and whatever. I hope you understand that I 
just thought you were responding to Ann, and I didn't feel that she deserved 
to be yelled at for having contributed nothing worse than a thoughtful, 
enthusiastic and gentle couple of remarks. A good idea next time might be to 
post your passionate warnings to PPL in direct response to the message that 
actually provoked your response. Just a suggestion. I'm not with the 
Armenian historical union or anything. Honest. :-)
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "orhan deniz" <orhan.deniz63@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 9:11 AM
Subject: Re: Jaws users look out, touch-screen Windows


Hey, dude, no harm intended. I was just expressing the way in which some
blind ppl react to certain things. No, I don't care about that BlindTech
thread, and I've got nothin to do with it. I wasn't angry,  just tellin
blind ppl to calm down like. Remember the windows live Mail thread?


Sorry if I've offended anyone,
Orhan.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 4:00 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws users look out, touch-screen Windows


> Orhan,
> Hi. It sounds as if you're overreacting. All Ann is saying, below, is that
> she recognizes that input peripherals are likely to finally change
> eventually. Eventually. Not that the keyboard and mouse are going to
> disappear in six months. She isn't expressing anxiety but rather just
> curiosity and appreciation for the gradual evolution of computer
> technology,
> including the pleasant thought that other incipient changes may eventually
> serve to level playing fields in various ways and provide everyone kinds
> of
> access none of us, blind or sighted, enjoys for the moment. This is all
> pleasant and innocuous, not something I'd have thought would inspire a
> heated response like yours. There isn't anything to be agitated about. Not
> to presume too much, but maybe you're carrying over some contentious
> feelings and some anger that are transferring over from the recent
> squabbles
> in a Blind Tech thread? if this is so, I can understand, but no one's
> arguing heatedly about this topic here, and no one's attacking you, or
> whatever it is you're reacting to.
>
> Respectfully.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "orhan deniz" <orhan.deniz63@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 5:05 AM
> Subject: Re: Jaws users look out, touch-screen Windows
>
>
> See, that's the problem with us blind ppl. Just wait, be a bit patient,
> and
> relax! Hell,  keyboards will be here for a long time. This would even
> effect
> sighted secutarries etc who used a keyboard. It's just total non-sense to
> think that the keyboard will be wiped out  with the new evolution of touch
> screen. That's ridiculous!
> BTw, as expressed in earlier posts, this will be an option. And, if this
> was
> gonna happen, Freedom scientific, GW micro, dolphin, serotek etc all work
> with microsoft. Do you guys realise how much bitching and moaning would
> take
> place between AT companies etc?
> Anyway, just my two british pouns worth lol.
>
>
> Orhan.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "ann medlar" <amedlar1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 11:15 PM
> Subject: Re: Jaws users look out, touch-screen Windows
>
>
>> Hey Yardbird,
>> I watched an interview with Bill gates and Steve ? the CEO of Microsoft
>> on
>> CNBC and according to the interview in the future there will be no more
>> keyboard andno more mouse.  I am sure that accessibilities will be
>> considered.  Believe me I think it is a ways away but I think we are
>> evolving to an operating system that might and I mean might be seamless
>> for
>> everyone.  A few months ago I remember Bill Gatesstating that allbooks
>> will
>> be available on web.  It is just a matter of time once the copyright
>> issues
>> are worked out.  Pretty soon I think information will be available to all
>> regardless of modality.  Let's hope so.  Imagine no added costs for
>> accessibility.  Cheers in advance.
>> Ann
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 5:23 PM
>> Subject: Re: Jaws users look out, touch-screen Windows
>>
>>
>>> P.S.
>>>
>>> So, does this mean that you believe the person you replied to is
>>> spreading
>>> eisinformation about the future of Windows in order to turn some of us
>>> toward considering a Mac or a Linux computer? That's the sense I get
>>> from
>>> the Wikipedia explanation, that it means to spread negative rumors about
>>> a
>>> product in order to turn potential customers off to it and propel them
>>> toward the product made by the company tha'ts disseminating the FUD.
>>>
>>> Or is it now sometimes used more casually, so that there doesn't have to
>> be
>>> a real or implied motive behind it in that sense if you just want to
>> invoke
>>> the expression in a more general way, for effect?
>>>
>>> thanks.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Brandon B" <serrebi101@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 1:50 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Jaws users look out, touch-screen Windows
>>>
>>>
>>> FUD,  means
>>> Fear, uncertainty and doubt
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear%2C_uncertainty_and_doubt
>>> Sorry for the confusion.
>>> Yardbird wrote:
>>> > ah, here's an opportunity to learn a new technical word. Fud. What's a
>>> > fud.
>>> > Is it a mistype of an all-capitalized acronym, FUD? If so, what does
>> that
>>> > stand for? Or is it a word, in which case what does it mean? any
>> relation
>>> > to
>>> > Elmer Fudd?
>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> > From: "Brandon B"<serrebi101@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> > To:<jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> > Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 1:14 PM
>>> > Subject: Re: Jaws users look out, touch-screen Windows
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Just because a touch interface is optional, doesn't mean it's the
>>> > default. Windows seven would fail if your fud was the case because
>>> > many
>>> > hardware offered out at launch wouldn't be totally ready for this.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Jim Talley wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Microsoft unveils touch-screen Windows
>>> >> Microsoft Corp. said its next operating system will be made for
>>> >> touch-screen applications, an alternative to the computer mouse, and
>>> >> its top executives
>>> >> reaffirmed interest in joining forces with Yahoo Inc.
>>> >>
>>> >
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