Re: Jaws update feature vs. downloading full update file from FS

  • From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 18:20:04 -0700

LOL Yep. just completely fooling around. People may make of it what they 
wish, bless their hearts. Let's end this thread now, okay? Thanks.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Vandecar" <cougars-den@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 5:41 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws update feature vs. downloading full update file from FS


lol and this is a bunch of  chicken crap from a yard bird
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 2:38 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws update feature vs. downloading full update file from FS


> Bruce,
>
> Yes. Not to mention that a hard-hitting investigative effort by someone on
> another list has revealed that FS deliberately releases updates for each
> version that are programmed to damage it beyond repair, in order to
> justify
> their coming out with the next paid or SMA release a few months later. Not
> everyone agrees with this theory, but it reflects some of the stress
> people
> feel about the unseen machinations of the FS Death Star.
>
> What a world, what a world. I'm melting....
> stree
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bruce Toews" <KetchupBoy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 2:09 PM
> Subject: Re: Jaws update feature vs. downloading full update file from FS
>
>
> Because you see people writing essays expressing their trepidation and so
> on, and that scares people away.
>
> bruce
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> On Fri, 23 May 2008, Yardbird wrote:
>
>> Robert,
>>
>> Well, if that's what accounts for the smaller file size, and that's
>> essentially the difference, it makes perfect sense to use the update
>> feature
>> form the Help menu. I remain puzzled why so many users apparently
>> disregard
>> this convenience and scurry about every time there's an update discussing
>> where to find the file and how to download it. Just don't get it. But I
>> explained that in another recent message.
>>
>> Thanks again.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "RAWest" <rawest@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 12:35 PM
>> Subject: RE: Jaws update feature vs. downloading full update file from FS
>>
>>
>> Believe it is slightly smaller than the full .exe download.
>>
>> Remember when you  download the file from fs windows installer opens
>> during
>> install.  Using jaws update this part of the installation is bypassed.
>> It
>> just installs it using your current settings.
>>
>> So that is how it is treated as an update.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Yardbird
>> Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 3:04 PM
>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: Jaws update feature vs. downloading full update file from FS
>>
>> Robert,
>>
>> I haven't checked file sizes so I must ask you. Are you saying that what
>> the
>> update method installed for you appeared to be the exact size of the full
>> program? Or is that number showing that it's only a smaller file than the
>> full program?
>> Thanks.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "RAWest" <rawest@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 11:29 AM
>> Subject: RE: Jaws update feature vs. downloading full update file from FS
>>
>>
>> Hello
>>
>> Well just on the last update, I used the update feature and the file size
>> it
>> downloaded was 58 mega bytes
>>
>> So the only thing I know is that using this method gets you out of using
>> the
>> windows installer interface.
>>
>> Other than that I don't know of any other difference.
>>
>> Robert
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Yardbird
>> Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 1:39 PM
>> To: JFW List
>> Subject: Jaws update feature vs. downloading full update file from FS
>>
>> As a new update to Jaws 9 has been released, I'm going to install it. I
>> know
>> how to do this both of the ways I mention in the subject line.
>>
>> However, I have never understood exactly how the two methods differ,
>> aside
>> from the actions you take to do them. Naturally, even though I know how
>> to
>> go to the Jaws Central area of the FS site and find the latest update
>> file,
>> and then run it as an install process myself, I'm attractted to the
>> simplified, easier method of just using the update feature on the Help
>> menu.
>>
>> But there are always discussions on these mailing lists that make it
>> sound
>> as if the two methods are substantively different, and there seem to be
>> ;jurists who believe that using the update feature is a halfway measure
>> that
>> may not properly modify your existing copy of Jaws, and may cause
>> problems.
>> These people seem to believe that the only right and safe way to do an
>> update is to download the latest file from FS, which is a complete
>> replacement for the program, I think, and install it yourself.
>>
>> Could anyone explain the origin of this disagreement, and shed some
>> practical light on the topic? As I said, if I were sure that using the
>> update feature were really responsible and safe, I'd certainly prefer it
>> to
>> having to go to FS, download the huge file and then go through an install
>> wizard procedure.
>>
>> teaksThanks.
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