I have enough vision to see that when the computer boots up the first screen
says "Windows XP". None of this is making much sense. Jaws is working
perfectly except when I lose text or emails in the middle of writing them.
I have a feeling that this might have something to do with that problem and
I can't afford to buy jaws pro or get another computer. I guess I'm stuck,
I just hope the teck can make good on this deal. Judith
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cy Selfridge" <cselfridge@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 9:54 PM
Subject: RE: Jaws editions and Windows XP editions
Judith,
When you go to JAWS and then to the help menu then to the "about" item what
does it say you are running?
Cy, the Ancient Okie...
-----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Judith Bron Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 7:58 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Jaws editions and Windows XP editions
The last time I booted up I checked the first screen and it said "Windows XP
pro". I sent my teck, the one who sold me this and knows jaws, what the
feedback has been on this topic. If nothing out of the ordinary was
happening I wouldn't care but disappearing documents and emails is enough to
make me concerned.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 4:23 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws editions and Windows XP editions
price.Not to sound silly, Judith, but could it possibly be that your computer is running under XP Home, which I can't see why that wouldn't be quite adequate if you'll pardon the backward syntax, and you just don't know it? You don't seem to understand why nearly everyone is perplexed that you claim to be using Jaws standard with an operating system it's supposed to simply not work with at *all*. That doesn't mean, work better or worse. That isn't what it's about. It's not that Jaws could work better this way or that. It's purely binary, if you will ; It shouldn't work at all as a fully functional, running program.
Ack. This is too weird. I hope we find out what this was about. I'm sorry that you keep thinking, My goodness, I'm having these terrible problems and these guys, they keep going on about which version it is or something.
but, well, as I said. it's quite a mystery and we can't help but be fascinated. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judith Bron" <jbron@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 1:06 PM Subject: Re: Jaws editions and Windows XP editions
Carl, I got this version of Jaws from the commission for the blind and they don't buy pro editions of anything. Also, on this new computer jaws works better than it did on my win 98 machine Except for my disappearing documents and emails. I sent one of the posts from this list over to my teck but, as could have been predicted, he hasn't answered yet. Thanks, Judith ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karl Smith" <karl@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 1:48 PM Subject: RE: Jaws editions and Windows XP editions
Hello Judith,
I am glad your system is working but I am curious how you know your JAWS is standard. I can't imagine how it would work on an XP pro system if it is. One way to be sure is to go to www.fsactivate.com, press the continue button and select the link to verify the number of keys available. Enter your serial number, hit submit and the resulting table will tell you for sure. Inquiring minds want to know.
Karl
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- H. L. Menkin -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Judith Bron Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 8:42 AM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Jaws editions and Windows XP editions
Well, I don't know who is right or wrong but except for the mystery of my disappearing documents or emails jaws regular is running fine on my xp pro machine. I forwarded a post from this list to my teck to see if he would adjust my settings so that I could hang on to my documents. I'm not debating right or wrong on this, I can't afford to upgrade to jaws pro. So, for now let him make his adjustments so I can keep my documents. Judith ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Benoit" <reb503@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 9:51 AM Subject: Re: Jaws editions and Windows XP editions
I stand corrected. You and Cy are correct. Judith Bron, in an earlier post, thought she was running XP Pro and Jaws Standard. This indicates that she must be mistaken about on or the other.
Richard ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Stansifer" <larrys@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 10:04 PM Subject: RE: Jaws editions and Windows XP editions
That is absolutely correct, unless FS has changed the game in the last two weeks.
At 08:55 PM 9/19/2006 -0500, Cy Selfridge wrote:
Well, I was under the impression that JAWS Standard would go into the Demo mode if you tried to run it on the Pro version of XP? You would not be authorized to run I think? Cy, the Ancient Okie...
-----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Richard Benoit Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 6:06 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Jaws editions and Windows XP editions
Cy and Alex,
I agree with both of you to a point. I believe that all the Jaws editions start with the $1295 edition and that the authorization key determines which functions are disabled, otherwise they are identical. I don't see any way to determine whether it's Standard or Pro except that: if under About Jaws it says "Remote access enabled", that means that it is the $1295 edition, They are all the same version number. I don't doubt that there are differences that are necessary for compatibility with the various XP editions, but nothing that the average would notice.
In my conversation with FS today they said that the Standard edition is being phased out. I think that they inferred that there will be only edition. I assume that this might be the end of the $895plus tax.What the new price will be is anyone's guess.
Judith's problem still remains. If what FS says is true (and I
think it probably is), and if she is running XP Pro with Jaws
Standard she will have to upgrade to Jaws Pro. She should, of
course, get some authoritative advice before spending a minimum of $200unnecessarily.
Richard ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex Stone" <alex.stone@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 4:05 PM Subject: RE: Jaws editions and Windows XP editions
> Cy, I believe the only difference is the authorization keys. > Cheers. > Alex > > -----Original Message----- > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On > Behalf Of Cy Selfridge > Sent: 19 September 2006 20:51 > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: RE: Jaws editions and Windows XP editions > > > Hi folks, > From all I know JAWS standard and JAWS Pro are the same programs. > I do not think I have ever seen anything which explains the > differences. > Perhaps, in earlier days, XP Pro was used primarily by > businesses and FS figured they could afford to pay a little more > for the authorization? > I am very unhappy that JAWS Standard does not work (reportedly) > with XP Media Edition. > Lots of home computers now come only with Media Edition and it > is getting harder to find one of the top of the line computers > with XP Home. > As I understand the Microbloat Vista the various editions are > really hard to decipher. > This should really be interesting indeed. > Cy, the Ancient Okie... > -----Original Message----- > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On Behalf Of Richard Benoit > Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 2:30 PM > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: Jaws editions and Windows XP editions > > Judith, > I certainly don't consider myself an authority on this matter > but it seems that what this tech said is definitely in conflict > with what Freedom > Scientific is saying. Jaws Standard definitely does not need XP > Pro.
> FS > says that Jaws Standard only works with XP Home. If it worked > with XP Pro or Media Center there would be no reason to upgrade > to Jaws Pro. FS says that Jaws Pro works with all editions of XP. > > Because you said that you were using XP Pro with Jaws Standard > it made me question whether I had upgraded to Jaws Projfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> I just called FS and confirmed that the tech is incorrect. They > said that Jaws Standard will not work properly with XP Pro. > > It may be that the problems you are having are unrelated to the > mismatched programs but I think it would be wise to discuss this > with FS. > > Richard > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Judith Bron" <jbron@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 12:31 PM > Subject: Re: Jaws editions and Windows XP editions > > >> Richard, According to the teck I bought this from jaws needs xp >> pro to function properly. Jaws itself is working fine on my >> computer, its just all the other idiosyncracies that are wacky. >> Judith >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Richard Benoit" <reb503@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 11:22 AM >> Subject: Jaws editions and Windows XP editions >> >> >>> Someone that was having difficulty with their new computer >>> mentioned that > >>> they were running Windows XP Pro and Jaws Standard. Someone >>> else has already mentioned that this may be the cause of the >>> problem. I can't confirm that but I would't be surprised if >>> that was the case. >>> >>> In the past week I purchased a new laptop that is running >>> Windows Media Center Edition (Windows Home was not an option). >>> >>> Freedom Scientific, on their website, lists Jaws Standard as >>> being compatible only with XP Home Edition. 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