OK so let's say I am running a version of windows targeted at a business or Pro user, but then I want to use JAWS, but do not want any extras, I still have to pay the extra for JAWS Pro as standard will not run.
You say that it is not FS who dictates which version of JAWS you need to run on a given version of windows, but that isn't correct. It is FS who decides whether to allow JAWS to be activated successfully in each version of windows. Windows just identifies which version windows itself is, and the FS programmers dictate the rest.
If someone purchases different versions of windows they do receive more or less of a product depending on the version they pay for, so yes you only get the version which has the functionality the user wants. However I want to be able to use JAWS (just JAWS) as a standard version as I do not need any of the Pro features, and yet I have to pay a premium to do that.
Peter -------------------------------------------------- From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@xxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 8:53 AM To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: RE: Jaws Standard/professional
Hi Peter, Ron and list, This list had a background discussion about this thread about four weeks ago. The answer at that time was, "it is due to market differentiation." Just like we have six versions of Vista and five versions of XP, but with two or three essential markets being targeted, we have the same strategyhere with FS. The "essential markets," then, are these three: consumer/homeuse, professional/business and a combination of two/enthusiasts. Standard/Home versions of Windows, such as XP Home and Vista/7 Home Basic/Premium, are optimized for home/single-user scenarios, whilepro/business versions including Windows XP Pro and Vista/7 Business (Pro in7)/Enterprise target corporate/advanced users. Still, enthusiast/top versions such as XP Tablet PC/Media Center/64-bit and Vista/7 Ultimatetarget users who wants to get most out of their computers, such as technicalanalysts, multimedia professionals and so forth. The actual process of authorizing a JAWS version lies with not FS'spractice: rather, it is derived from Winlogin process (Windows Logon serviceunder Windows kernel) which determines a Windows version. Although FS'strategy of market differentiation exists, for technical perspective, it is Windows itself that determines which version of JAWS (Standard or Pro) wouldbe authorized on a given computer. As for extras, if you don't want it, then that's okay. Hope it was helpful. Cheers, Joseph P.S. Was I too technical for you to understand? -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter Holdstock Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 12:14 AM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Jaws Standard/professionalThey only manage to get away with it because most JAWS users will be using acopy of JAWS purchased by governments, charities and other large organisations that tend to just pay what htey need to. I paid for my own copy, as did many people and it annoys me like hell that you have to paymore for the same thing. It's not like any further development has to go into making JAWS work on Pro versions of windows. Peter -------------------------------------------------- From: "Ron" <facup1927@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 1:09 AM To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: RE: Jaws Standard/professionalNice one mate. Your exactly right. They are taking the piss a little. My computer adviser who knows a lot about software says, he's never known a programme that XP home won't be compatible with. If they are simply doing it for the money factor, and thinking about the people they are trying to help, they should be named, mentioned and discussed. Regards. -----Original Message-----From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On BehalfOf DJ Sent: 23 July 2009 00:44 To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: Jaws Standard/professional That, in my very humble opinion, is still, to this day, a lousy excuse.Just because someone else is doing it they should do it? Give me a cottonpickin' break. Let's be real here. They're charging more for the so called Pro version simply because they can, and people and the government continue to pay the price. -----Original Message-----From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On BehalfOf Chris Hallsworth Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 6:09 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Jaws Standard/professionalActually, this is correct what FS is doing. If MS is asking us to pay morefor "professional" features of Windows, why should FS not follow suit? There are no differences between standard and professional, however you can atleast authorize JAWS on any supported version of Windows. Also you can buyadd-ons like Remote Access and the new Tandem Direct. -- Chris Hallsworth E-mail: christopherh40@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx MSN: ch9675@xxxxxxxxxxx Skype: chrishallsworth7266 -------------------------------------------------- From: "Ron" <facup1927@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 10:59 PM To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Jaws Standard/professionalHi all. I have used Jaws Standard since version 6 and it has worked with all Windows software. And, having trouble with Vista and IE8, have decided to go back to XP. The XP version I have is professional. When I tried to download Jaws 10, which I had just paid £110 for an up grade, it said it was incompatible. Having phoned FS I was informed I would need to pay another £169 for an upgrade to professional. I asked what I was paying for, like what differences the professional version had, but they were a bit uncertain. They merely said it would work with XP Pro. Can anyone tell me why this is and what their reasons are? Why are we paying more for a professional version of Jaws, when it doesn't offer any extras. Any comments/thoughts would be appreciated. Ron-- JFW related links: JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/ Scripting mailing list: http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com JFW List instructions:To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribefrom this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw Alternative archives located at: http://n2.nabble.com/JAWS-for-Windows-f2145279.html If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.comVersion: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.24/2255 - Release Date: 07/22/0918:00:00 -- JFW related links: JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/ Scripting mailing list: http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com JFW List instructions: To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw Alternative archives located at: http://n2.nabble.com/JAWS-for-Windows-f2145279.html If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx -- JFW related links: JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/ Scripting mailing list: http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com JFW List instructions: To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw Alternative archives located at: http://n2.nabble.com/JAWS-for-Windows-f2145279.html If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx-- JFW related links: JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/ Scripting mailing list: http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com JFW List instructions: To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw Alternative archives located at: http://n2.nabble.com/JAWS-for-Windows-f2145279.htmlIf you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact thelist owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx -- JFW related links: JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/Scripting mailing list: http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.comJFW List instructions: To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxTo unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfwAlternative archives located at: http://n2.nabble.com/JAWS-for-Windows-f2145279.htmlIf you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
-- JFW related links: JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/ Scripting mailing list: http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com JFW List instructions: To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw Alternative archives located at: http://n2.nabble.com/JAWS-for-Windows-f2145279.html If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx