Re: Jaws 8 a disapointment Kill it

From: Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 11:59:15 +1200

Dear List,

As I stated on my own "opinion" message, it is time for us to getback to normal. Enough is enough. We've heard enough, we'veseen enough, and this thread has gone completely out of control.More than thej% of this thread has gone to waste. If this kindof thing continues, then the last thing that I (and any otherpeople on this list) would do is either put ourselves to nomailor unsubscribe. I strongly urge that we go back to normal. Tothe person who've actually started this thread: may I kindlyrecommend that you contact Freedom Scientific Techniccl Supportand tell them your concerns please? Thanks for yourconsiderations.

Cheers,

Joseph P.S. I, too, will not comment on further messages (unlessif I have to).

----- Original Message -----
From: "alicia" <astarner@xxxxxxxxxxx
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date sent: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 13:42:01 -0500
Subject: Re: Jaws 8 a disapointment Kill it

I agree. Enough is enough! I understand there are some people

that are upset

with the way that JAWS is or is not working, but this type of

thread does

nothing but inflate the already full inboxes of the group

members.  I was

going to unsubscribe, but I really value the opinions of those on

the list

when I am in a bind, and do not know how to get out of it. Why

don't we all

get back to asking questions about JAWS and how JAWS interacts

with

applications, instead of complaining about what it does or

doesn't do.  The

reality is that no one on the list can change the functionality

of JAWS, so

why bark up this tree. What you need to do is call the

developers of the

software or e-mail the technical support line, and make your

gripes known to

the right people. I am going to jump down off my soap box now,

because I am

not really the moderator and don't have the right to preach, but

I did want

to express my opinion of an endless thread of griping that has

taken over my

inbox. I, for one, do not have the time to weed through a bunch

of junk

mail, full of gripes and complaints. I am not trying to offend

anyone here,

I like and value all members of the group, but I just want to get

the list

back on track and focusing on the topic at hand, "How does JAWS

work and how

can it better help us all with using popular applications." This

will be my

last post on this thread.

Have a great day
Alicia

"The chief handicap of the blind is not blindness, but the

attitude of

seeing people towards them."
- Helen Keller, 1925

----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead@xxxxxxxxxx
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 1:28 PM
Subject: RE: Jaws 8 a disapointment Kill it

There is no specific question as such, it's just people bitching

about

JAWS again. I would delete all further messages on the subject

until it

dies down.
I'm done with this one.

At 05:18 AM 3/25/2007, you wrote:

Okay then  what is the specific question here?

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-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]

On Behalf

Of Chris Skarstad
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 9:53 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Jaws 8 a disapointment Kill it

Well?
We are talking about JAWS here so I dunno where the complaint is.

At 08:17 PM 3/24/2007, you wrote:

excuse me . . . .  but what is the JAWS related question here??
Then kill the thread

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On

Behalf Of Agent86b
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 8:11 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Jaws 8 a disapointment

Hi,
not all of us have our state purchas our copy of Jaws.
Also some of us can't afford to change to another product.
When I made my first comment I was only relaying my experience.

Unless the moderator says different I will continue to do so.

At

no time was I suggesting people should not report problems to FS.
Max.

on 08:58 25/03/2007, Chris Skarstad said:
and I'm right behind Bruce. Come on, y'all, get serious here.

You

guys know FS doesn't pay attention to this list, so whining here

won't

solve anything. You wanna get FS where they live, enccourage

your

state to go with another developer. FS does a lot of business

with

government contracts, so if they start losing those, maybe

they'll

start paying attention. if someone gives you a crappy product

and you

keep right on buying it, that just tells them that they have it

in the

bag and don't need to keep up with the demands of the consumers.

At 06:21 PM 3/24/2007, you wrote:

I'm off this list if all everyone's going to do is whine.

bruce

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On Sun, 25 Mar 2007, Agent86b wrote:

Even if you submit complaints to FS it has been my experience
nothing changes.
Max.

on 01:50 25/03/2007, Rick Harmon said:
Hi,
Have you made any of your problems known to FS?  Complaining
here won't make
JAWS work any better. Everyone that has issues with JAWS needs

to

submit

their complaints to them.  Otherwise your wasteing your time.
Rick

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----- Original Message -----
From: "alicia" <astarner@xxxxxxxxxxx
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 11:40 AM
Subject: Re: Jaws 8 a disapointment

I agree.  I have not used JAWS 8 in some time, because I honestly
feel it is
the worse release ever put out by Freedom Scientific. It has

many

bugs;
therefore, I have resorted to using JAWS 7.1 until FS repairs the
many
things that are wrong with the 8 version.
Alicia
"The chief handicap of the blind is not blindness, but the

attitude

of

seeing people towards them."
- Helen Keller, 1925

----- Original Message -----
From: "marcatony" <marcatony@xxxxxxxxx
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 9:53 AM
Subject: Jaws 8 a disapointment

   I am very disapointed in Jaws 8.  There are so many sites

that I can >  not

 get it to read.  Between telling me there are non-existant

attachments >  to

 telling me that buttons are inactive.  I have two versions

of Jaws close

 at
 hand since Jaws 7 seems to be able to read more things.

 Marsha Anderson

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