I agree. Enough is enough! I understand there are some people that are upset with the way that JAWS is or is not working, but this type of thread does nothing but inflate the already full inboxes of the group members. I was going to unsubscribe, but I really value the opinions of those on the list when I am in a bind, and do not know how to get out of it. Why don't we all get back to asking questions about JAWS and how JAWS interacts with applications, instead of complaining about what it does or doesn't do. The reality is that no one on the list can change the functionality of JAWS, so why bark up this tree. What you need to do is call the developers of the software or e-mail the technical support line, and make your gripes known to the right people. I am going to jump down off my soap box now, because I am not really the moderator and don't have the right to preach, but I did want to express my opinion of an endless thread of griping that has taken over my inbox. I, for one, do not have the time to weed through a bunch of junk mail, full of gripes and complaints. I am not trying to offend anyone here, I like and value all members of the group, but I just want to get the list back on track and focusing on the topic at hand, "How does JAWS work and how can it better help us all with using popular applications." This will be my last post on this thread.
Have a great day Alicia "The chief handicap of the blind is not blindness, but the attitude of
seeing people towards them." - Helen Keller, 1925
----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 1:28 PM Subject: RE: Jaws 8 a disapointment Kill it
There is no specific question as such, it's just people bitching about JAWS again. I would delete all further messages on the subject until it dies down.I'm done with this one. At 05:18 AM 3/25/2007, you wrote:Okay then what is the specific question here? --------------------------------------------------------------------- Eliminate annoying spam! My mailbox is protected by iHateSpam, the #1-rated spam buster. http://www.ihatespam.net -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 9:53 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: Jaws 8 a disapointment Kill it Well? We are talking about JAWS here so I dunno where the complaint is. At 08:17 PM 3/24/2007, you wrote: >excuse me . . . . but what is the JAWS related question here?? >Then kill the thread > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >Eliminate annoying spam! > >My mailbox is protected by iHateSpam, the #1-rated spam buster. ><http://www.ihatespam.net/>http://www.ihatespam.net > > > > >---------- >From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On >Behalf Of Agent86b >Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 8:11 PM >To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Subject: Re: Jaws 8 a disapointment > >Hi, >not all of us have our state purchas our copy of Jaws. >Also some of us can't afford to change to another product. >When I made my first comment I was only relaying my experience. >Unless the moderator says different I will continue to do so. At >no time was I suggesting people should not report problems to FS. >Max. > >on 08:58 25/03/2007, Chris Skarstad said: >>and I'm right behind Bruce. Come on, y'all, get serious here. You >>guys know FS doesn't pay attention to this list, so whining here won't >>solve anything. You wanna get FS where they live, enccourage your >>state to go with another developer. FS does a lot of business with >>government contracts, so if they start losing those, maybe they'll >>start paying attention. if someone gives you a crappy product and you >>keep right on buying it, that just tells them that they have it in the >>bag and don't need to keep up with the demands of the consumers. >> >> >>At 06:21 PM 3/24/2007, you wrote: >>>I'm off this list if all everyone's going to do is whine. >>> >>>bruce >>> >>>-- >>>Bruce Toews >>>Skype ID: o.canada >>>E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: DogRiver@xxxxxxxx >>>LiveJournal: http://brucetola.livejournal.com >>>Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net>>>Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): >>>http://www.ogts.net>>>Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com >>> >>>On Sun, 25 Mar 2007, Agent86b wrote: >>> >>>>Even if you submit complaints to FS it has been my experience >>>>nothing changes. >>>>Max. >>>> >>>>on 01:50 25/03/2007, Rick Harmon said: >>>>>Hi, >>>>>Have you made any of your problems known to FS? Complaining >>>>>here won't make >>>>>JAWS work any better. Everyone that has issues with JAWS needs to submit >>>>>their complaints to them. Otherwise your wasteing your time. >>>>>Rick >>>>> >>>>>======= >>>>>Visit my webpage and podcast feed at www.blind-geek-zone.net >>>>> >>>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>>From: "alicia" <astarner@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 11:40 AM >>>>>Subject: Re: Jaws 8 a disapointment >>>>> >>>>>I agree. I have not used JAWS 8 in some time, because I honestly >>>>>feel it is>>>>>the worse release ever put out by Freedom Scientific. It has many >>>>>bugs; >>>>>therefore, I have resorted to using JAWS 7.1 until FS repairs the >>>>>many>>>>>things that are wrong with the 8 version. >>>>>Alicia>>>>>"The chief handicap of the blind is not blindness, but the attitude >>>>>of>>>>> > seeing people towards them." >>>>> > - Helen Keller, 1925 >>>>> >>>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>>From: "marcatony" <marcatony@xxxxxxxxx> >>>>>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 9:53 AM >>>>>Subject: Jaws 8 a disapointment >>>>> >>>>> > I am very disapointed in Jaws 8. There are so many sites >>>>> that I can > not >>>>> > get it to read. Between telling me there are non-existant >>>>> attachments > to >>>>> > telling me that buttons are inactive. 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