Re: JFW-friendly OCR
- From: Russell Solowoniuk <rsolowoniuk@xxxxxxx>
- To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 20:49:17 -0700
Hi,
I agree, but come on...Lawrence Welk? <grin>
Russell
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cy" <cselfridge@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 7:20 PM
Subject: RE: JFW-friendly OCR
Russell,
One of the nicer things about living in America is the fact that one
is entitled to an opinion and is free to express it. This is also why
there is usually more than one brand of a particular product otherwise
everyone would drive a Dodge van, cheer for Oklahoma State University
and listen to Lawrence Welk as I do. CYS...
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Russell Solowoniuk
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 7:58 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: JFW-friendly OCR
Hi guys,
I'm sorry, but I disagree about the FAX feature in OpenBook not being
useful. At work, until OpenBook 7 came out, if I needed to FAX
something I'd have to get sighted help to do so. Now, I am able to
scan
a document and FAX it off right away without any help whatsoever. It
may not be for everyone, but for some of us it's a God send.
Just my opinion,
Russell
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Pickrell, Rebecca M.
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 6:13 AM
To: 'jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: RE: JFW-friendly OCR
Dale, right on. I couldn't agree more. If I wanted to fax or send
email
I wouldn't be using an OCR package to do that. An OCR package is meant
to do just that and nothing more. Built-in speech is a waste too since
if we're using it on a computer we already have a screen-reader. For
the
stand-alone machines speech is necessairy but not when it's a program
that loads on a computer.
-----Original Message-----
From: Dale Leavens [mailto:dleavens@xxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 9:31 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: JFW-friendly OCR
My complaint with Open Book and with K1000 remains that there is
little
or no investment made in better OCR which is the entire point of both
programmes and the reason I want them. Instead we get a plethora of
editing options, voices and things like fax and copy programmes none
of
which are or can be expected to come close to the specific functions
of
those applications already on my computers. I want these programmes to
read. Please, get this message, read, read, read! Not e-mail, sing or
access a e-text service I am not eligible to use. A gazillion voices
complicates my computer and interferes with getting my job done. It
would be perfectly acceptable for them to scan into Word or
WordPerfect
with the formatting options such as column recognition or other
context
dependent formatting where they can be read, edited, all the power of
those macro languages, all the power of those editors.
I would also like to be able to buy a capable braille translation
programme intelligent enough to drop a meeting agenda or minutes into
from an e-mail attachment without having to train staff or myself for
that matter in the subtleties of various styles and edit in or out
codes
and get out passable rapid embossed braille. DBT of course can give
library quality but I just need a usable agenda I can bring to a
meeting
at short notice and become a peer of the group. or braille the results
of a scan or even a web page.
There may be a place for these all-in-one programmes but for those of
us
using our computers as adjunct tools for other careers they become
complicated and inefficient methods.
Hopefully this will not get me banished from the list as too far off
topic.
Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario
dleavens@xxxxxxx
Home of the Polar Bear Express!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Hofstader" <chris.hofstader@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 6:22 AM
Subject: RE: JFW-friendly OCR
Hi,
The features that help OB and JAWS work more nicely together started
in
version 6.0. That was the first release we did in-house after the
HJ/Blazie/Arkenstone merger and when we started to work as a single
team
rather than three complimentary companies.
cdh
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On =
Behalf Of Maurine Park
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 6:48 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: JFW-friendly OCR
Hello,
What v of ob are you using that has all the features you spoke of?
I'm
using ob 5 & was wondering if you could tell me how to turn off the =
speech & change it so the num pad works like it does for jfw/ Also,
when
you turn off the ob speech does jfw take over? Thanks, Maurine &
Firefly
e-mail firefly00@xxxxxxxxxxxxx msn messenger mmpark@xxxxxxxx
----- Original Message -----=20
From: "Chris Hofstader" <chris.hofstader@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 8:31 AM
Subject: RE: JFW-friendly OCR
> OpenBook offers a feature in which its native speech can be turned =
off.
> It also lets one switch to the JAWS keyboard layout so the numeric
> keypad keystrokes work identically to those in JAWS.
>
> OB has a ton more useful features than the lower priced OCR
packages.
> All of these have been careful designed for use by a blind person =
rather
> than the mainstream audience. Thus, OmniPage may do the OCR nicely
=
but
> it will not contain concepts like templates or other intelligent
> features designed to help recognize not just the text but the
document
> itself. OpenBook also gives the user a very convenient way of =
scanning
> documents and moving them back and forth to their notetaker, reading
> Grade 2 books and even converting the scanned image into a BRF file.
>
> OB and K1000 are more expensive because the market is much smaller.
=
We
> spend an awful lot in usability testing and research and development
=
to
> make our products work as easily as possible for blind users. For =
some,
> OmniPage is enough but, for me, a lifelong computer user, I prefer
the
> conveniences of OpenBook.
>
> Cdh
>
> Chris Hofstader
> VP/Software Engineering
> Freedom Scientific, Inc.
> 11800 31st Ct. North
> St. Petersburg, FL 33716
> 800-444-4443 x1061
> http://www.freedomscientific.com
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Alan Clendinen
> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 9:15 AM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: re: JFW-friendly OCR
>
>
> Jim,
>
> No, as I explained in my message, Text Cloner Pro uses JFW to
provide
> the speech. Openbook and Kurzweil 1000 have their own speech
engines,
> and =
as
> a
> result of this "feature" they often screw up JFW.
>
> Alan
>
> Jim wrote:
> Is Text Cloner Pro self-voicing?
>
> Jim
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