RE: JFW-friendly OCR
- From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M." <rebecca.pickrell@xxxxxxx>
- To: "'jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 05:12:32 -0800
Dale, right on. I couldn't agree more. If I wanted to fax or send email I
wouldn't be using an OCR package to do that. An OCR package is meant to do
just that and nothing more. Built-in speech is a waste too since if we're
using it on a computer we already have a screen-reader. For the stand-alone
machines speech is necessairy but not when it's a program that loads on a
computer.
-----Original Message-----
From: Dale Leavens [mailto:dleavens@xxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 9:31 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: JFW-friendly OCR
My complaint with Open Book and with K1000 remains that there is little or
no investment made in better OCR which is the entire point of both
programmes and the reason I want them. Instead we get a plethora of editing
options, voices and things like fax and copy programmes none of which are or
can be expected to come close to the specific functions of those
applications already on my computers. I want these programmes to read.
Please, get this message, read, read, read! Not e-mail, sing or access a
e-text service I am not eligible to use. A gazillion voices complicates my
computer and interferes with getting my job done. It would be perfectly
acceptable for them to scan into Word or WordPerfect with the formatting
options such as column recognition or other context dependent formatting
where they can be read, edited, all the power of those macro languages, all
the power of those editors.
I would also like to be able to buy a capable braille translation programme
intelligent enough to drop a meeting agenda or minutes into from an e-mail
attachment without having to train staff or myself for that matter in the
subtleties of various styles and edit in or out codes and get out passable
rapid embossed braille. DBT of course can give library quality but I just
need a usable agenda I can bring to a meeting at short notice and become a
peer of the group. or braille the results of a scan or even a web page.
There may be a place for these all-in-one programmes but for those of us
using our computers as adjunct tools for other careers they become
complicated and inefficient methods.
Hopefully this will not get me banished from the list as too far off topic.
Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario
dleavens@xxxxxxx
Home of the Polar Bear Express!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Hofstader" <chris.hofstader@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 6:22 AM
Subject: RE: JFW-friendly OCR
Hi,
The features that help OB and JAWS work more nicely together started in
version 6.0. That was the first release we did in-house after the
HJ/Blazie/Arkenstone merger and when we started to work as a single team
rather than three complimentary companies.
cdh
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On =
Behalf
Of Maurine Park
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 6:48 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: JFW-friendly OCR
Hello,
What v of ob are you using that has all the features you spoke of? I'm
using ob 5 & was wondering if you could tell me how to turn off the =
speech &
change it so the num pad works like it does for jfw/
Also, when you turn off the ob speech does jfw take over?
Thanks,
Maurine & Firefly
e-mail firefly00@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
msn messenger mmpark@xxxxxxxx
----- Original Message -----=20
From: "Chris Hofstader" <chris.hofstader@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 8:31 AM
Subject: RE: JFW-friendly OCR
> OpenBook offers a feature in which its native speech can be turned =
off.
> It also lets one switch to the JAWS keyboard layout so the numeric
> keypad keystrokes work identically to those in JAWS.
>
> OB has a ton more useful features than the lower priced OCR packages.
> All of these have been careful designed for use by a blind person =
rather
> than the mainstream audience. Thus, OmniPage may do the OCR nicely =
but
> it will not contain concepts like templates or other intelligent
> features designed to help recognize not just the text but the document
> itself. OpenBook also gives the user a very convenient way of =
scanning
> documents and moving them back and forth to their notetaker, reading
> Grade 2 books and even converting the scanned image into a BRF file.
>
> OB and K1000 are more expensive because the market is much smaller. =
We
> spend an awful lot in usability testing and research and development =
to
> make our products work as easily as possible for blind users. For =
some,
> OmniPage is enough but, for me, a lifelong computer user, I prefer the
> conveniences of OpenBook.
>
> Cdh
>
> Chris Hofstader
> VP/Software Engineering
> Freedom Scientific, Inc.
> 11800 31st Ct. North
> St. Petersburg, FL 33716
> 800-444-4443 x1061
> http://www.freedomscientific.com
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Alan Clendinen
> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 9:15 AM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: re: JFW-friendly OCR
>
>
> Jim,
>
> No, as I explained in my message, Text Cloner Pro uses JFW to provide
> the
> speech. Openbook and Kurzweil 1000 have their own speech engines, and =
as
> a
> result of this "feature" they often screw up JFW.
>
> Alan
>
> Jim wrote:
> Is Text Cloner Pro self-voicing?
>
> Jim
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