JAWS 8 did not fix that problem here either. FS could not reproduce that same problem on two computers I'm using. Have you worked with them on it? I hope that everyone else who is having those 7.1 and on problems will keep in contact with them. Cher >>> "Gene and Princess" <kb7uen5893@xxxxxxxxxxx> 11/18/06 7:17 AM >>> Well I have had JFW 8 on the machine for less then ten minutes and it has already given me the fatal exception error that I have come to know so well since installing JFW7.1. I moved from Window Eyes to get away from problems like this. Many of my friends have complained as well regarding the fatal exception errors with JFW. The only way to get speech back again is to reboot. This is unacceptable. I would rather have more stability over new features. Is there a way around this problem? Gene and Princess