Hi,
I may not be saying this right, but couldn't one put the video intercept on
to a CD and
take it with one--assuming one had the administrative privileges to use itt
ona new computer--
In other words, wouldn't that make the process a 2-step process and hence
easier?
I saythis as I have turne down voluntteer opportunities due to hassle of
setting up JAWS to work a computer on site due to probability of not getting
the same computer every time.
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From: "Jim Grimsby" <jimgrims@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 6:17 PM
Subject: RE: JFW on a thumb drive
Hi, yes Microsoft could infact put the vcm on the operating they could not how ever put the jfw video intercept on every computer because this is not a Microsoft component and it is updated every once and a while by fs. Hth
-----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Angel Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 3:28 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: JFW on a thumb drive
Couldn't Microsoft put these video intercept drivers or files or
whatever
they are on all their operating systems The sighted people wouldn't
either
know they were there or would be effected by their presents.
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Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 11:56 AM
Subject: Re: JFW on a thumb drive
beWell explained, Bruce. But in the course of this discussion, I've become painfully aware that this is evidence of an accessibility problem yet totoaddressed and overcome, and it makes me sad and frustrated. If only there were some simple method of allowing us Jaws and other screen reader typestemporarily use Jaws on other computers without either incurringadditionalcharges to ourselves nor ripping off Freedom Scientific in any way, that would be truly desirable. I can barely express how important and
wayenabling something like this would be. I can only wish that someone will find ato make this all cohere and open up the world to us screen reader people just that much more. How cool it would be to be able to visit someone and be able to use their computer, just by plugging in a little device that would leave no trace once disconnected.
Darn, as they say in some quarters, these days. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce Toews" <dogriver@xxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 8:45 AM Subject: Re: JFW on a thumb drive
Part of the problem is that for the thumb drive option to really be effective, you need the video intercepts installed. So for you to effectively use it in a library situation, you'd pretty much need administrative rights for the library's computer, and I strongly doubt
http://www.ogts.netthe library would give that to you. All three of the major screen readers run up against this wall.
Bruce
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> Hi, > If that process were made more simple, more could use it. Thanks > formixed> post as that info just killed my idea of using > the thumb drive to access computers in libraries when traveling. > Hope the thumb drive option is improveddownt heroad. > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clifford Blackwell" > <cblackwell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 10:32 AM > Subject: Re: JFW on a thumb drive > > >> In reading the material on the link that Mike sent, it's sort of aon>> bag as far as usefulness. To make it fairly portible, you would >> need your authorization on the dongle. In order to use it from >> computer to computer, each computer would need to have two USB >> ports available. I don't know if you could use a mini two port >> hub for this to cut downand>> machine ports or not. >> >> You can only use this version on Windows 2000 or XP machines and >> you would first have to download two files, the video intercept >> manager>> the dongle manager from files that you could carry on your thumbdrive.>> It sounds as if the synthesizer would have to be loaded on thecomputer>> instead of the thumb drive too. Although, that may only apply to
Jaws on>> synthesizers in addition to Eloquence. >> >> So it's not as good or as bad as first and second thought. >> >> Clifford >> >> > > > yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 10/7/2005 10:04:01 AM >>> >> I'm having trouble imagining the practical scenarios for this >> thumb drive. I hopefully thought it meant what an earlier poster >> was hoping, that you >> could travel without your own computer and temporarily installdays>> other >> peoples' machines (I imagined something like a limit in terms ofto>> or >> hours of usage, not the demo mode). But if the other machine hason it>> have an >> authorization on it, wouldn't that imply that it also had *Jaws*others>> >> already? In which case, of what value would the thumb drive deal >> be? No, I haven't yet been to the site to see the explanation >> there, but I'm skeptical >> that a question as basic as mine is addressed. I presume thatwhat's>> know >> exactly what the meaning of all this is, but I can't figure outI>> being >> described. And I don't understand what dongles are for, either.me>> thought >> they were for a similar purpose. To temporarily install jaws on a >> computer >> not your own. >> >> If this is really clearly explained online, someone just please >> tell>> and >> I'll be glad to go there later. >> >> Thanks. >> , I'd >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce Toews" >> <dogriver@xxxxxxxx> >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 7:37 AM >> Subject: Re: JFW on a thumb drive >> >> >> According to the thumb drive FAQ, you need at least 128 MB free on
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