At 02:13 PM 6/29/2004, you wrote: >Dye is not used for recording CD's. The data is burned into the foil Please see: http://www.mediastore.com/cdr/cdr_faqs.asp I'll quote a bit below. If dye is not used to facilitate recording, why then do we call it recording dye? What is the difference between gold and silver and blue CDRs (when viewing from the bottom)? Most importantly, gold CDRs are no longer being made. Silver CDRs are the premium CDR in the industry and years of experience tell us that the best CDRs are Mitsui Silver. Blue CDRs are a widely mixed breed. You will find bluish-grey, greenish-blue, bluish-purple, greenish-grey, and more, but the best test is to hold the CD up to the light and see how translucent or see-through that it is compared with others. Generally, the more see-through discs have less recording dye and are of a lesser quality. We recommend the more opaque disc, whether it is silver, green, blue, or whatever. Q: A: Why are different manufacturers' discs different color green (or blue)? The color of the CD-R disc is related to the color of the specific dye that was used in their recording layer of the disc. This base dye color is modified when the reflective coating is added. Some of the dye - reflective coating combinations appear green, some appear blue and others appear yellow. Visual differences between various media types are irrelevant from the standpoint of their actual operation. At 750 nm, where CD-R recorders and CD-ROM readers function, the media are, for all intents and purposes, indistinguishable from an optical standpoint. They all "look" the same. Q: A: What are the differences/benefits between cyanine, phthalocyanine and azo dyes? There are a number of important recording characteristics associated with each dye and reflectivity coating combination as well as some longevity issues. Each media manufacturer strives to balance the engineering characteristics of the dye to insure greater compatibility with recorders and readers and long archive life. In addition to cyanine and phthalocyanine, there is also azo dye. Cyanine dye and its metal-stabilized derivatives were originally used because the Orange Book, Part l referred to the recording characteristics of cyanine-based dyes in establishing CD-Recordable standards. So, dyes based on cyanine tend to have a wide range of acceptable recording power levels and recording speeds. The phthalocyanine dye is a newer dye that appears to be less sensitive to exposure to light after recording so that longevity has been improved. Azo dye has been used in other optical recording media and is now being used in CD-R. The media manufacturers use these different dyes in combination with dye thickness, reflectivity thickness and material and groove structure to fine tune their recording characteristics for a wide range of recording speeds, recording power and media longevity. Over time, there has been a steady convergence in the properties of the various dyes used for CD-R. ... Thanks for the mention of the Word template for printing labels. that is probably much more accessible than the dedicated labeling programs. Chris -- To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx