Juan Pablo, That so-called Technical Note was sent directly to me from FS Support, and I copied it directly. So it appears that one hand does not know what the other hand is doing. I can't perform what you suggest now, but recall with JFW 12.0.1158 installed I got "Excel.jss". If I check with my installed JFW 12.0.525 I get: Microsoft Excel 2007.jss Again, I'm in no hurry to mess up my system again. Dave Composed on a Dell Latitude 630 in the general vicinity of my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area. ----- Original Message ----- From: Juan Pablo To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 13:38 Subject: Re: JFW 12.5 and automatic update Really Strange the technical note. Two Things: I do not understand Jaws 12.0.1158? This number is showing when I go to the about option. The note says: jaws 12.0.1183. Second, I have not installed excel 2007 or 2010in my machine. I did tthis procedure yesterday through tandem to fix the problem with Success. Did you opened the script manager in the excel window? It says microsoft excel 2007.jss JP ----- Original Message ----- From: Farfar Carlson To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 5:26 PM Subject: Re: JFW 12.5 and automatic update Juan Pablo, Seems that I heard something about that and tried it with no success. Also what really ticks me off is that they managed to remove the capability of checking the monitor cells, in addition to still not having a way to read the top four cells in a column. These capabilities are either removed from the script file, or the keys are no longer assigned to the script functions. Check it out if you have a moment. I'm not sure I want to try the "new and improved" Excel interface just yet. Took me 3 hours to undo the install of the JFW 12.0.1183. I'm perfectly happy at this point with 12.0.525, thank you. Most notably, I see that FS expects us to undo any incompatibilities they introduce. Here is the technical note I received from FS Support, and it appears to contradict what you advised that I do. Perhaps you know better than FS how to "fix" JFW 12.0.1183? ****** start of technical note ****** Excel support has been redesigned for a more responsive and accurate experience. This redesign will affect customized Excel settings files created with versions of JAWS prior to 12.0. Update 1 (v. 12.0.1183, released April 2011). These changes affect the customized settings files for Excel 2003 or later. If you have customized a few Excel settings, you can re-create those customizations manually. However, if you have a large number of customizations, don't remember them all, or someone else generated them for you, you can re-label them for use with JAWS 12.0 Update 1 and later. The following instructions are for use with Excel customized-settings such as configuration files created by the Settings Center (JCF), structured Braille files created by the Settings Center (JBS), dictionary entries created through Dictionary Manager (JDF), special frames for Excel (JFF), or labeled graphics (JGF): Open the Start Menu and navigate to: All Programs/JAWS12.0/Explore JAWS/Explore My Settings. Rename the files Microsoft Excel.jbs, Microsoft Excel.jcf, Microsoft Excel.jdf, Microsoft Excel.jgf, and Microsoft Excel.jff to excel.jbs, excel.jcf, excel.jdf, excel.jgf, and excel.jff respectively. If the old file name included the version of Excel, such as Microsoft excel 2007.jdf, the version part is no longer required. Such a file should be renamed simply excel.jdf. Notes: If you are using Excel XP or earlier, you do not need to rename your customized Excel files. The files referred to here do not include any JSI files for Excel from your PersonalizedSettings folder. If you have customized script files that utilized the JSS files prior to installing 12.0 Update 1, or if you have customized JSI files for Excel in your PersonalizedSettings folder, do not make the changes described in this article. It is also not recommended that you rename JKM files in the manner described here. Please contact Freedom Scientific Technical Support for more information. 727-803-8600. Dave Composed on a Dell Latitude 630 in the general vicinity of my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area. ----- Original Message ----- From: Juan Pablo To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 13:09 Subject: Re: JFW 12.5 and automatic update Hi, the excel issue is a problem with the naming of scripts files. Go to your shared settings and find a files calles excel.* Rename it to microsoft excel 2007.* and microsoft excel 2010.* ----- Original Message ----- From: Farfar Carlson To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 4:58 PM Subject: Re: JFW 12.5 and automatic update Most recent for now. There is a beta available directly from the FS web site, but I advise staying away from it for now, as I found some serious issues with it already just using Excel. Dave Composed on a Dell Latitude 630 in the general vicinity of my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area. ----- Original Message ----- From: Rik James To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 12:33 Subject: JFW 12.5 and automatic update I have been watching my JAWS 12 check for updates by way of the help menu. and so for it has not come up. I am using JAWS version 12.5.25 on my Windows 7 Home Premium machine. It seems to work pretty well. This version is what is listed on About JAWS. Perhaps the update happened automatically? Or should I say, is this the most recent version? Thanks. Rik