This can be true, I find too that stopping speech does not necessarily lave you where you think it is, generally Jaws is a few lines behind what is being read. Sometimes I also go to line-by-line because it is faster skipping over lengthy URLs as in reading down a list of Google results. It should also be remembered though that sighted people have repetitive strain syndrome from mousing, many of which functions could be more effectively and physically more efficiently using keystroke alternatives. It might well be that keyboard and Jaws users are, in fact healthier than mouse users. There is a useful research project. Wonder if there is a government grant in that? Now wouldn't that be something, just imagine the headlines. "Blind persons more cost efficient to employ due to reduced work related injury costs." In addition it is noted that they also result in reduced photocopy costs, reduced electrical consumption and monitors last for ever! <GRIN> Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario dleavens@xxxxxxx Home of the Polar Bear Express! ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Poehlman" <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2003 10:17 AM Subject: Re: JAWS--good product--potential problem Dale, While this is true, you must admit that it is cumbersom to use this technique for navigation especially if you are doing research and on some sistems, the forward and back during say all don't really work all that well. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dale Leavens" <dleavens@xxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 10:57 PM Subject: Re: JAWS--good product--potential problem Well, there is the say-all sequence, it does not speak blank lines and does not require a lot of repetitive use. Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario dleavens@xxxxxxx Home of the Polar Bear Express! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tusing" <ptusing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 8:51 PM Subject: JAWS--good product--potential problem Greetings, Although I do appreciate the effort behind and the great value of using JAWS: I am hearing from a growing--but not scientific-polled group of people who are reporting problems. Their issue which I do not wish to become my issue or your issue is due to stress or repeat motion strain on the hands due to the increased number of keystrokes we get to use as years go by. Being fair, we do have Internet keystrokes which work to a certain extent: however, the inability to "remove" totally blank lines from the web page reading experience has such people abandoning 5. Very few people keyboard constantly as we screen reader users do as our software is keyboard driven and the increased risk of carpel tunnel syndrome is always there. Why can't F S give us a toggle for "lessening" the number of totally blank lines since the Internet keystrokes although O K--certainly are not 100%. Why can't we "choose" to turn "off" totally blank lines on some or all web sites? After all, if JAWS can encounter text then one can surely program to locate (and hopefully) remove totally blank lines. Repeat use damage can ruin a career. Thank you. To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.