Hi:Since I started this and I didn't mean to start something going, I will say I downloaded the latest update this morning and I noted the improvement with JAWS8 and IE7.
George R. Marshall geom4@xxxxxxxxxxxxx----- Original Message ----- From: "Allan" <allanwkf@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 4:02 PM Subject: JAWS8 Experience
hi Daniel,yea is true, 6 month is quite a long time for a program to grow, but, i think too many FS need to care about in this version 8.0.xxx, e.g. 8.0 start with 8.0.422 then a week later it release an update 8.0.423, this 2 releases is for windows xp. right after that, FS release 8.0.1163, 8.0.1173 and the current one 8.0.1177, this 3 releases is to implement the use of windows vista in to a single screen reader. so, i think we really need to give FS some time, perhaps 9.0?.i also realize that 8.0 do have some problem in IE7 and outlook express, but is true, this problem really don't stop me from usingjaws 8.0, at lease up to this moment. Warmest Regards, Allan Wong 3M Technology** If I said something wrong, please forgive me, as English is not my native, I'm sorry.From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Allen, I think nearly six months ought to be enough to get Jaws 8 working properly with standard Windows operating systems and ordinary applications no worse than Version 7 did. I think you are being far too generous tosuggest that people like me simply overlook the fact that Jaws 8 interfereswith ordinary functions in Internet Explorer, Outlook Express, Word and practically everything else, where the version before it worked almostperfectly with everything for me, as did the version before that. Six monthsout, post-release, Allen, means that they'll be releasing yet another version in little more than six months. So how long into the new product'sone-year life span are we supposed to wait in order to show enough patienceand kindness? Sorry, but you must not be having many of the kinds ofproblems others are having, and I'm glad for your good fourteen. But this is not a case of bad attitude on the part of us consumers. Honestly, it isn't.This is one really buggy release. Best regards, Daniel----- Original Message ----- From: "Allan" <allanwkf@xxxxxxxxx>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 11:44 AM Subject: JAWS8 Experiencehmm? is jaws 8.0.XXX really that bad? i use it since last year november tillnow, i don't really have much trouble with it. some time maybe we need to understand that when the program need to implement some new features and some new product support, there might be little crappy here and there. so, why can't you people compromise and give some time for the developer to solve the problem in the near future?. since day one we use jaws, we already know that there is some small problem here and there, but i do believe FS have tryed their best to fix it from time to time. just nothing is perfect in the world. sorry if this is not what you all like to hear, but just my perspnal opinion. Warmest Regards, Allan Wong 3M Technology ** If I said something wrong, please forgive me, as English is not my native, I'm sorry. From: "Eileen Lafond" <Eileen.Lafond@xxxxxxxxxxx> I cannot use the version 8 at all because it will not work with GroupWise version 6.5.7 and I cannot seem to get Novell to do anything. F S. says that Novell has to take care of the problem. Eileen La Fond Phone (206) 386-0011 e.mail Eileen.LaFond@xxxxxxxxxxx"Darrell Shandrow" <nu7i@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 4/26/2007 11:07 AM >>>Hi George and all, My biggest problem with JAWS 8 really is the frequent occurrence of blank virtual buffers, mostly in Internet Explorer.----- Original Message ----- From: "George Marshall" <geom4@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 10:55 AM Subject: JAWS8 Experience Hi All: With all of the negative comments about JAWS8, just thought I would say I have very few problems with JAWS8 and XP, this configuration has been quite stable for me. I don't question that some of you are having trouble. HTH, George R. Marshall geom4@xxxxxxxxxxxxx----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian Spratt" <A.Spratt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 12:19 PM Subject: Re: Control Home and Control End in Outlook ExpressSmall detail. Pressing the home or end key without control hasalwayslanded you on the first or last message in a folder, with thatmessagebeing selected.----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Moore" <donmoore@xxxxxxxxxxx>Hi List, Please note that I did change the subject to reflect what we are discussing today. Robert Hebert wrote, in part: "I am using Jaws 8 and Control home does not produce that annoyingbongeither when the message list in o/e or when in an open message. Inanopen message, control home simply reads the top line of the messageandcontrol end reads the last line of the message or the first or last message in the list when in any of the mail boxes." (end of quote) That is exactly my experience and I do like the fact thatpressingControl Home actually lands you on the first message in a mailboxandpressing Control End actually lands you on the last message in amailbox.In earlier versions of JAWS, pressing Control Home or Control End,in anOutlook Express mailbox, always left you with the first or lastmessageunselected. That's amazing, I realize, that I finally foundsomethingpositive to say about JAWS 8. 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