Dave, Hey, thanks for the NVDA link as I cold not find it. (LOL) If FS said you were the only person who experienced problems with JAWS 10 they must not be listening to anyone else in the World. I have both 10 and 9 on my XP Home laptop and I went back to 9 for everything except the web business as 10 locks up in MS Outlook 2003. Cy, the Anasazi -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 1:57 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: JAWS question for a friend Ed, This is another "Dave" but I can give you some well-seasoned (in my case, age) advice, if you'll pardon the pun from a 58-year-old "youngster." I was myself disgusted with JAWS 10 coming from JAWS 9 and like you, reverted back to 9. However I recall asking Freedom Scientific this question, and of course their answer was something like: Sorry, but most users of JAWS 10 are reporting no major problems, so we can't entertain your request. So my SMA was reduced down by one count. Again not a quote, but a paraphrase. As to your other question on NVDA, here's a link to their web site, and they have a version 10 available for download: http://www.nvda-project.org/ Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Thurston" <thurston@xxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 12:50 Subject: Re: JAWS question for a friend Hello Dave, I bought Jaws 11 and the sma several months ago and found version 11 to be flawed, so reverted to version 10. Will HJ give me a free version to replace the flawed one? I certainly won't waste a SMA to correct their error! I also notice that HJ isn't sending out information as to how best to deal with their goof up!!! I keep hearing rumors about a new program called MDVA, well think I have that right. However, I cannot find out anything about it. Do you have any suggestions as how to get more information on it? I have been using Jaws ever since it was a dos program back in the 1980s and up to now have found it be a reliable program, but now its quality is questionable. I have tried Window Eyes and found it rather confusing and even tried Linux and got as far as doing email and simple spread sheets, but then it got too involved and I gave it up. Why did Henter Joyce keep screwing around with Jaws and screwed it up royally and don't even bother to instruct its users as what to do to remedy the problems! sorry Dave didn't mean to vent like this, but I am so disgusted with Jaws that I could scream and just want something that I can just do email and down loads from Bard! Thanks for your time and patience! Ed Thurston ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@xxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 3:13 PM Subject: Re: JAWS question for a friend > Dave: > > Even more good news for you and everyone else. > > JAWS Standard, new user, $895.00. SMA, $120.00. Total cost for both > products, $1,015. > > JAWS Pro, new user, $1,095.00. SMA, $200.00. Total cost for both > products, > $1,295. > > HTH > > Sincerely: > > Dave Durber > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dave Carlson" <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 12:57 PM > Subject: Re: JAWS question for a friend > > >> Dave, >> >> Boy you are sure full of good news. It really hurts to think that some > folks >> haven't upgraded since JAWS 7 and probably won't ever upgrade again > without >> putting a new mortgage on their home. >> >> But seriously, since it's been so long since I actually purchased my >> first >> copy of JAWS, what is the starting price for JAWS Pro, for a completely > new >> purchaser? Isn't it around the $800 mark? >> >> Dave >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@xxxxxxxxx> >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 09:27 >> Subject: JAWS question for a friend >> >> >> To everyone on this list: >> >> Just in case anyone did not read my message from yesterday, regarding >> upgrading JAWS 10 to JAWS 11, I am reposting the information. >> >> Note: FS calls the two versions of JAWS, "JAWS Standard" and "JAWS Pro". >> >> Upgrade pricing for JAWS Standard, versions 10, 9, 8, and 7, to JAWS 11 >> Standard. >> >> NOTE: For those list members who are not aware, you can only purchase >> the >> optional Software Maintenance Agreement (SMA), at the same time you > purchase >> the upgrade for your version of JAWS. >> >> Version 10, cost $120.00. SMA, $120.00. Total cost for both products, >> $240.00. >> >> Version 9, cost $240.00. SMA, $120.00. Total cost for both products, >> $360.00. >> >> Version 8, cost $360.00. SMA, $120.00. Total cost for both products, >> $480.00 >> >> Version 7, cost $400.00. SMA, $120.00. Total cost for both products, >> $520.00 >> >> Contact FS or your local dealer, to find out, if the pricing for version > 7, >> will also apply to earlier versions of JAWS, that work on the Windows > 32-BIT >> platform. >> >> Upgrade pricing for JAWS Pro, versions 10, 9, and 8, to JAWS 11 Pro. >> >> Version 10, cost $200.00. SMA, $200.00. Total cost for both products, >> $400.00 >> >> Version 9, cost $400.00. SMA, $200.00. Total cost for both products, >> $600.00 >> >> Version 8, cost $600.00. SMA, $200.00. Total cost for both products, >> $800.00 >> >> Contact FS or your local dealer, to find out, if the pricing for version > 8, >> will also apply to earlier versions of JAWS, that work on the Windows > 32-BIT >> platform. >> >> HTH >> >> Sincerely: >> >> Dave Durber >> >> >> -- >> JFW related links: >> JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/ >> Scripting mailing list: >> http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com >> JFW List instructions: >> To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to >> jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. >> Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw >> Alternative archives located at: >> http://n2.nabble.com/JAWS-for-Windows-f2145279.html >> >> If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or > the >> way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. 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