Re: JAWS getting better or worse!

  • From: "Farfar Carlson" <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 13:37:47 -0800

Alan,

Good point, however I would think that after all those years, and the fact 
that you've made no changes to the operating system nor JAWS on that old 
Gateway, might have some impact on its relative stability. Keeping a simple 
unencumbered version of JAWS is the path to happiness.  Don't let that 
computer go. And I see you still have Openbook 7. Keep that, too. I found 
several significant problems with OB9. They pulled that cookie out of the 
oven too soon.

I continue to rant at how "bloated" is becoming our beloved JAWS, with all 
the features, some of which I consider frivolous. Of course my opinion is 
worth every penny or Kopeck or Guilder or Pound you might pay for it, and 
therefore  worth nothing to anyone who has a different opinion.

I've asked FS specifically to start branching out JAWS into three basic 
products (and price then appropriately) -- one for speech, one for Braille, 
and one for magnification. Then the code you pay for and receive is 
optimized for your requirements and not hobbled to make it a cure-all for 
all ailments.

Of course each "module" should allow merging of the other module to allow 
dual capability.

And of course it was appreciated and considered as not being a suggestion 
that would result in any improvement. So there I go. Another opinion worth 
every penny.

Alan,  thanks for providing me yet another soap box to step up onto.

Dave
Composed in the Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Jose, California


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alan Dicey" <adicey@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 12:38
Subject: JAWS getting better or worse!


Dear Dorothy, and List Members,
I did not want to give any of you fine folks the impression I am a cave man,
and just using a old Gateway machine which I purchased in early 1999, which
runs Windows 98 (first Edition) JAWS 5 and I think Open Book 6, but I also
have a Dell with XP-Home with JAWS 11 latest updates, and Open Book 7.02.

The point here especially for Dave is that things have not gotten better for
Blind computer users, Microsoft Windows users, nor JAWS users, they have
gotten worse, as I have not had a single problem with my old computer's
configuration for 11 years.

Can any say that about what they are using right now, with JAWS 12, Windows
7?

Not I!!
LOL!

With Best Regards,
Alan
Miami, Florida
Alan Dicey, President
United States Braille Chess Association - USBCA
"Yes, Blind and Visually Impaired People, Can, and Do, Play Chess!"
United States Braille Chess Association Home Page:
http://AmericanBlindChess.org


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dorothy Ingram-Gorban" <Dorothy.ingram-gorban@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "Alan Dicey" <adicey@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 3:20 PM
Subject: Re: Hello Dave I met Ted Henter in 1990


> it was interesting, and I think another list member met him as well I
> cannot spell his name but something like John fiorant,no but I will find
> it he is retired and seems to have known everyone. the list can be a bit
> stuffy at times, interesting seeing how many are using dell computers,
> having had dreadful service and a Drive failure plus fact when engineer
> came he put in another faulty western digital, in all I have had to pay a
> local engineer a great deal to set it up again,then heard Dell made big
> profits and are pulling out of Ireland now the Irish economy is sinking, I
> have a good VIP friend in Herefordshire who once said tome 7, and a prior
> viglen XP desktop "pack them up and find a courier and send to me and I
> will do a rebuild, well of the viglen he knew,the engineers were making a
> mess of things, re vintage computers, the maker of your windows 98, must
> have been good, my late friend who loved his windows 98 had his pc custom
> made by a local small 2 man business.regarding booths current dell desktop
> sorry I have a broken shoulder and typing is very hard, I was thinking
> like some cars, they get a good name and on usa I think a song was sung
> about Chevrolet57----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Alan Dicey" <adicey@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 5:59 PM
> Subject: Hello Dave I met Ted Henter in 1990
>
>
>> Hello Dave,
>> I apoligize if my message was not apropiate for the list, but I thought
>> the person said he had been using JAWS since the 1980's, and when I met
>> Ted Henter, in late 1990, almost 1991, he was still developing JAWS.
>> It had not been released yet!
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>> With Best Regards,
>> Alan
>> Miami, Florida
>> Alan Dicey, President
>> United States Braille Chess Association - USBCA
>> "Yes, Blind and Visually Impaired People, Can, and Do, Play Chess!"
>> United States Braille Chess Association Home Page:
>> http://AmericanBlindChess.org
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Farfar Carlson" <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 12:41 PM
>> Subject: Re: I met Ted Henter in 1990
>>
>>
>>> Alan,
>>>
>>> What's the context of your message? I find nothing to tell me why you
>>> posted
>>> this reply.
>>>
>>> Fill me in.
>>>
>>> Dave
>>> Composed in the Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Jose, California
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Alan Dicey" <adicey@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 06:43
>>> Subject: I met Ted Henter in 1990
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear Friends,
>>> Well, I met Ted Henter in November 1990 when he came to a Blind Computer
>>> Users Group I had founded here in Miami.
>>> He basically came to say he was developing a Screen Reading software.
>>>
>>> I must tell you, I did not take him very serious, nor did I think many
>>> of
>>> the nearly 30 attendents did
>>>
>>> I actually chuckled to myself of course, when he took the speakers stand
>>> and
>>> started his presentation, "How does this guy think he can go up against
>>> Digital Equipment Company, DEC Talk, the IBM Screen Reader, Giant
>>> corporations that could throw as much money into their Screen reading
>>> software programs as they cared to".
>>>
>>> I had not a clue that he was on to something fantastic!
>>> I remember him as a very kind soft spoken, cordial gentleman.
>>> I am so glad it worked out for him, and us!
>>>
>>> With Best Regards,
>>> Alan
>>> Miami, Florida
>>> Alan Dicey, President
>>> United States Braille Chess Association - USBCA
>>> "Yes, Blind and Visually Impaired People, Can, and Do, Play Chess!"
>>> United States Braille Chess Association Home Page:
>>> http://AmericanBlindChess.org
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Farfar Carlson" <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 9:17 AM
>>> Subject: Re: new on the list
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hello Bob!
>>>>
>>>> Welcome to the list. Since the 1980s? What version of JAWS are you
>>>> currently
>>>> using? Some of us are using JAWS 12 on various platforms and have
>>>> noticed
>>>> some vagaries in operation. What's your experience?
>>>>
>>>> Dave
>>>> Composed in the Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Jose,
>>>> California
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "bob mathews" <bmathews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2010 22:10
>>>> Subject: new on the list
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> I am new on the list, but have been a JAWS user since the 1980tys...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Bob Mathews
>>>> Bob Mathews Consulting
>>>> 866 6343773
>>>> bmathews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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