Re: JAWS Update Now Available

  • From: "Ricque" <ricjustice@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 21:42:17 -0400

That's right, and you know why?
Because they can't charge for fixes, but they can charge for new features.
I hate to burst anyone's bubble, but FS is not our friend, they're just a business trying to make money. If they don't know how to fix something, then they should have the balls to say so.
Richard Justice
www.blind-computing.com
----- Original Message ----- From: "Darrell Shandrow" <nu7i@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 8:58 PM
Subject: Re: JAWS Update Now Available


Hi Richard,

Agreed. What you say is oh so true to a point, but FS isn't fixing certain
critical issues that are actually universal across a wide variety of
configurations.

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Ricque" <ricjustice@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 4:59 PM
Subject: Re: JAWS Update Now Available


Well, it seems that where Jaws is concerned, performance is going to vary
from system to system.
I have it installed on 4 different systems here, with the exact same Jaws
configuration on each one, and no 2 are alike in terms of performance.
Richard Justice
www.blind-computing.com
----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 6:22 PM
Subject: Re: JAWS Update Now Available


The weirdest thing of all is that on my particular system, it is very
intermitant.
Sometimes, I'll have to shut down, and restart Internet explorer just to
get it right, and other times I can go for weeks without a single issue.
It's very strange indeed.





At 04:25 PM 6/21/2007, you wrote:
Indeed, but some of these issues have existed since the very first 8.0
release. I am going to be incredibly upset if I must take another ding to
my SMA just to recover basic functionality.  Ridiculous!

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 2:10 PM
Subject: Re: JAWS Update Now Available


Hi Darrell

Thanks for that, I believe I'll be sticking with my current version,
as none of the fixes apply to any programs I use on a daily
basis.   Let us hope that the blank virtual buffer thing is fixed
when 9.0 is released in September, according to the fs
website.  Besides, this version i have now works well enough and we
all know that old thing that says, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.


At 03:54 PM 6/21/2007, you wrote:
>Hello Chris,
>
>I and others can confirm the issue still exists.  Quite disappointing.
>
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead@xxxxxxxxxx>
>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 1:41 PM
>Subject: Re: JAWS Update Now Available
>
>
>hi.  any chance that the problems with the blank virtual buffers have
>been fixed in build 2173?
>I don't want to download this new version and install it only to find
>that I'm still gonna have to load up internet explorer a couple times
>before it works properly.
>
>
>
>
>At 02:55 PM 6/21/2007, you wrote:
> >Hi Rick and all,
> >
> >So far, it does seem a bit more responsive.
> >
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> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Rick Harmon" <rharmon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 12:46 PM
> >Subject: Re: JAWS Update Now Available
> >
> >
> >It's working much better here with Outlook Express as well.
> >Not perfect yet but much better than build 2107 in my opinion.
> >
> >Rick
> >
> >Rick
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Jeffrey Shockley" <jawswizard@xxxxxxxxx>
> >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 3:36 PM
> >Subject: RE: JAWS Update Now Available
> >
> >
> >Hi,
> >Since I have installed the latest update, I have noticed that JAWS
> >works
> >a
> >lot better with Outlook 2002 than it did in the last build. Before,
> >when
> >I
> >would open a message, JAWS would take a long time to even open it and
> >get
> >me
> >to the point where I could start reading a message. Now, it just > >opens
> >quickly like It used to and I can read messages without any problems.
> >Cheers,
> >Jeffrey
> >
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> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> >Behalf
> >Of Rick Harmon
> >Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 2:50 PM
> >To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >Subject: Re: JAWS Update Now Available
> >
> >
> >The OE bugs seem to be better here so far.  I don't have near as many
> >hang
> >ups when pressing delete on a message while reading to go to the > >next
> >message.  In the last build I had to stop speech every time before
> >doing
> >this or jaws would stop speaking.  So lets hope things are getting
> >fixed.
> >
> >Rick
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Christopher Hallsworth" <chrishallsworth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 2:29 PM
> >Subject: Re: JAWS Update Now Available
> >
> >
> >Well the virtual cursor issues has still not been fixed! We obviously
> >need to complain more, or perhaps maybe wait and see what JAWS 9 has
> >for
> >us in store. Thanks for letting us know about this.
> >On Thu, 21 Jun 2007 11:57:20 -0500, "Bruce Toews" <dogriver@xxxxxxxx>
> >said:
> > > FS has just updated JAWS 8.0. Go to www.freedomscientific.com, > > > JAWS
> > > Headquarters, and the features and downloads link. This version
> > > takes
> > > JAWS 8.0 out of public beta for Windows Vista users, and is an
> > > update
> > > for all other supported versions of JAWS. You should be able to > > > use
> > > the
> > > auto-update feature if your JAWS is current, but if you are not,
> > > just
> > > install this new version overtop of your current installation.
> > > Bruce
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