Re: JAWS Update Now Available
- From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 17:40:45 -0700
yes, well, that's what I thought. People are saying different things,
though. It all started with a comment about how Jaws 9 would be a waste of
an SMA credit because Jaws 8 has been so flawed. I didn't understand the
logic of that, and so I asked. And, well, whatever, like we say. Sorry I
asked, sort of. Someone must have meant something I just didn't get, because
it was more like a spoken comment than a written one, and I was looking for
logic when the explanation would have been in someone's tone of voice if
they'd said it aloud.
Oh boy. Mailing lists are so much fun. :-) Hey, love you guys. No problem.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ricque" <ricjustice@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 4:56 PM
Subject: Re: JAWS Update Now Available
No, you do not get to skip upgrades.
If you purchased an SMA to cover 9 and 10, that is what it covers.
Richard Justice
www.blind-computing.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 7:22 PM
Subject: Re: JAWS Update Now Available
> You say consecutive. Okay, so does that mean that if you had an SMA for
> two
> upgrades and decided to skip Version 9, then you could hang in there and
> get
> 10 and 11, instead? Rather than 9 and 10? Interesting. I always assumed
> they
> made you apply the SMA to each release, not skipping one or even more
> until
> you decided to use it. Interesting.
> If that's the case, what are these guys saying about how they'd be wasting
> their SMA's on Version 9 unless some of the glitches in Version 8 aren't
> fixed? I'm not understanding that.
>
> Thanks.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Blake Sinnett" <frequency660@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 3:30 PM
> Subject: Re: JAWS Update Now Available
>
>
> I'm afraid it doesn't matter whether you install an upgrade or not. If you
> buy an SMA, you're entitled to two consecutive upgrades.
>
>
> From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Reply-To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: JAWS Update Now Available
> Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 15:16:09 -0700
>
> Rick,
>
> I'm not disagreeing with you about being disappointed with Jaws in the way
> you express. But I'm not sure what you're saying about the SMA. Now, I may
> be wrong, but here's how I thought the SMA arrangement worked. I thought
> you
> buy an SMA to entitle you to the next two full Jaws releases, and if you
> choose not to download and install one or both of them, no credit rolls
> over
> so you can wait for a later version to try. In other words, let's say you
> have an SMA that is supposed to be good for version 9 and 10. I thought
> that
> if you never install 9, for instance, then all you'll have left on the SMA
> will be version 10, and so forth.
>
> Now, if I'm wrong, and buying an SMA entitles the user to any two
> upgrades,
> or something like that, please explain. I'm afraid I'm not expressing the
> question quite right, but maybe someone can see what I'm asking. You and
> one
> other person have spoken resentfully about how you feel you'll be wasting
> your SMA credit for Version 9 if Jaws 8 is never perfected before 9 is
> released. Please understand that I'm not arguing with you. I honestly
> don't
> not what the two of you are saying.
>
> thanks.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rick Harmon" <rharmon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 2:27 PM
> Subject: Re: JAWS Update Now Available
>
>
> Hi Chris,
>
> If FS releases a version 9 before version 8 is fixed I think we have a
> right
> to cry foul here. This problem honestly should have been fixed by now as
> the other screen readers don't suffer from the problem, so why should Jaws
> and why should we put up with having to use another SMA to get a fix that
> should have been fixed by now.
>
> Rick
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 5:10 PM
> Subject: Re: JAWS Update Now Available
>
>
> Hi Darrell
>
> Thanks for that, I believe I'll be sticking with my current version,
> as none of the fixes apply to any programs I use on a daily
> basis. Let us hope that the blank virtual buffer thing is fixed
> when 9.0 is released in September, according to the fs
> website. Besides, this version i have now works well enough and we
> all know that old thing that says, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
>
>
> At 03:54 PM 6/21/2007, you wrote:
> >Hello Chris,
> >
> >I and others can confirm the issue still exists. Quite disappointing.
> >
> >Darrell Shandrow - Accessibility Evangelist
> >Information should be accessible to us without need of translation by
> >another person.
> >Blind Access Journal blog and podcast: http://www.blindaccessjournal.com
> >Check out high quality telecommunications services at http://ld.net/?nu7i
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 1:41 PM
> >Subject: Re: JAWS Update Now Available
> >
> >
> >hi. any chance that the problems with the blank virtual buffers have
> >been fixed in build 2173?
> >I don't want to download this new version and install it only to find
> >that I'm still gonna have to load up internet explorer a couple times
> >before it works properly.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >At 02:55 PM 6/21/2007, you wrote:
> > >Hi Rick and all,
> > >
> > >So far, it does seem a bit more responsive.
> > >
> > >Darrell Shandrow - Accessibility Evangelist
> > >Information should be accessible to us without need of translation by
> > >another person.
> > >Blind Access Journal blog and podcast:
> > >http://www.blindaccessjournal.com
> > >Check out high quality telecommunications services at
> http://ld.net/?nu7i
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Rick Harmon" <rharmon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 12:46 PM
> > >Subject: Re: JAWS Update Now Available
> > >
> > >
> > >It's working much better here with Outlook Express as well.
> > >Not perfect yet but much better than build 2107 in my opinion.
> > >
> > >Rick
> > >
> > >Rick
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Jeffrey Shockley" <jawswizard@xxxxxxxxx>
> > >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 3:36 PM
> > >Subject: RE: JAWS Update Now Available
> > >
> > >
> > >Hi,
> > >Since I have installed the latest update, I have noticed that JAWS
> > >works
> > >a
> > >lot better with Outlook 2002 than it did in the last build. Before,
> > >when
> > >I
> > >would open a message, JAWS would take a long time to even open it and
> get
> > >me
> > >to the point where I could start reading a message. Now, it just opens
> > >quickly like It used to and I can read messages without any problems.
> > >Cheers,
> > >Jeffrey
> > >
> > >Check out my blog!
> > >The URL is
> > >http://jeffreyshockley.livejournal.com
> > >"You learn something new every day!"
> > >"You can do anything if you put your mind to it!"
> > >
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> > >Behalf
> > >Of Rick Harmon
> > >Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 2:50 PM
> > >To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >Subject: Re: JAWS Update Now Available
> > >
> > >
> > >The OE bugs seem to be better here so far. I don't have near as many
> > >hang
> > >ups when pressing delete on a message while reading to go to the next
> > >message. In the last build I had to stop speech every time before
> > >doing
> > >this or jaws would stop speaking. So lets hope things are getting
> fixed.
> > >
> > >Rick
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Christopher Hallsworth" <chrishallsworth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 2:29 PM
> > >Subject: Re: JAWS Update Now Available
> > >
> > >
> > >Well the virtual cursor issues has still not been fixed! We obviously
> > >need to complain more, or perhaps maybe wait and see what JAWS 9 has
> > >for
> > >us in store. Thanks for letting us know about this.
> > >On Thu, 21 Jun 2007 11:57:20 -0500, "Bruce Toews" <dogriver@xxxxxxxx>
> > >said:
> > > > FS has just updated JAWS 8.0. Go to www.freedomscientific.com, JAWS
> > > > Headquarters, and the features and downloads link. This version
> > > > takes
> > > > JAWS 8.0 out of public beta for Windows Vista users, and is an
> > > > update
> > > > for all other supported versions of JAWS. You should be able to use
> > > > the
> > > > auto-update feature if your JAWS is current, but if you are not,
> > > > just
> > > > install this new version overtop of your current installation.
> > > > Bruce
> > > >
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