Re: JAWS 10 - Auto forms mode

  • From: "Peter Holdstock" <peterholdstock@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 00:01:59 +0100

Yes it was going in to forms mode automatically. But don't get me wrong, I love auto forms mode just don't want to be in forms mode as soon as a page starts and I can't then navigate around without having to press additional keys.


Peter

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From: "alice dampman" <alicedh@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 12:21 AM
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: JAWS 10 - Auto forms mode

It sounded to me as if often when the person who wrote the message about this went onto a web page and landed on an edit field, he was automatically thrown into forms mode. Doesn't sound to me as if he had a choice at all. The decision was made for him. The way JAWS 9 works, you have a choice. You are by default not in forms mode, and if you want to be, you choose it. There's no guesswork, no sometimes you're in forms mode, sometimes not. It is consistent, and, IMO, works very well because of that consistency. And there is a point in complaining about it: since, as I understand it, JAWS 10 is still in Beta, if enough people say they don't like this feature and why they don't like it, FS may rethink it and save us all a lot of trouble.

alicedh@xxxxxxxxxxx
----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce Toews" <Bruce@xxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 12:27 PM
Subject: Re: JAWS 10 - Auto forms mode


There's nothing wrong with giving people the option. If auto-forms mode
were being forced on anyone, then there might be a point to complaining
about it, but it's not, so in my personal opinion, there isn't.

Bruce


On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 10:58:03 -0300, "Don Moore" <donmoore@xxxxxxxxxxx>
said:
I agree 100% with Alice! If it aint broke, don't fix it!
----- Original Message ----- From: alice dampman
  To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 9:40 AM
  Subject: Re: JAWS 10 - Auto forms mode


  I don't think I like the idea of auto forms mode at all. If I want to
  fill out something, it is so easy to hit enter to get into forms mode,
  there is no chance of typing something into an edit field
unintentionally, I always know whether I'm in forms mode or not, and if
  for some reason, I'm unsure, all I have to do is press the key
  combination for the pc cursor to find out.
      I don't like my computer or its programs to do my thinking for me,
      and automatically putting me in forms mode when I may not want to
      be there falls into that category IMO.
  Alice
  alicedh@xxxxxxxxxxx
----- Original Message ----- From: Peter Holdstock
    To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 5:37 PM
    Subject: JAWS 10 - Auto forms mode



    Hi, I love the new auto forms mode. However I find it annoying when
    sometimes it will automatically go in to auto forms mode when you
first load up a site. For example EBay or other sites were there is a
    search box or username field, and the website is designed to put you
    straight to either of the boxes. JAWS then switches to forms mode as
soon as the page has loaded (sometimes even whilst it's loading), and
    then you can't use your navigation quick keys to move around the
    page, without having to press down arrow first to get out of forms
    mode.

    I'd like to have it so that JAWS wont go in to auto forms mode in
    situations were the website automatically puts you in an edit field.

    Anybody else have any comments on this?

    Peter


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