I started looking at VIM and Context, Crimson and others last night. I've been using SAS for nearly 20 years but it is outrageously expensive for personal use. DOT provides it at work for me. Would you mind if I ask questions off list since this is beyond the scope of this list?
Thanks for your input. Karen----- Original Message ----- From: "Soronel Haetir" <soronel.haetir@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "jfw" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 9:31 AM Subject: Re: Indent and text editors
Almost everything I do is in C/C++. I use visual studio (currently 2k8 Standard, can't justify a more expensive package since it's only a hobby for me now). or emacs depending on exactly what I am doing. I can use vim variants but really don't care for them. I have done .NET, again using VS, in the past, mostly when working in the publishing field as a technical reviewer. On 2/8/10, 1SmartDog@xxxxxxx <1smartdog@xxxxxxx> wrote:What language(s) do you program in and what editors do you use? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Soronel Haetir" <soronel.haetir@xxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 10:14 PM Subject: Re: Indent and text editorsI wouldn't use either as an editor for programming, so *shrug* Notepad is okay for editing configuration files of various sorts, but it just plain lacks features for programming. And at this point WordPad is reaching the point of becoming Word Lite. :) On 2/8/10, 1SmartDog@xxxxxxx <1smartdog@xxxxxxx> wrote:Actually, the font settings are the same. I've just been doing moreresearch. I downloaded both "Context" which is a programmer's text editoraswell as Notepad++. JFW functions in both as it does in Notepad. Wordpad,it seems, is not a pure text editor but does insert RTF codes. JFW sees a tab in Wordpad as "tab" in the code. In the pure text editor it just sees spaces. I sure wish I could change it, though. I'd rather hear "tab" instead of the number of spaces. Thanks for the reply. Karen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Soronel Haetir" <soronel.haetir@xxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 8:59 PM Subject: Re: Indent and text editorsMy guess would be that this is due to how JAWS comes up with the number. It doesn't (AIUI) actually extract the text, instead it looks at the blank space and calculates how many spaces there are. I'm guessing you use different font settings in the two editors. On 2/8/10, 1SmartDog@xxxxxxx <1smartdog@xxxxxxx> wrote:I'm in a quandry over indent and text editors. Specifically, I'm looking atjust Notepad and Wordpad. For programming, I want indents announced. Inboth these editors I've turned indents to announce. In Wordpad, what is announced is "left margin" "one tab" "two tabs", etc, which I like. In Notepad, lines which begin at the left margin are announced "one space" and tabs areannounced as "7 spaces". I don't like the Notepad results. Any idea whythey are different? Can I change this? Thanks for any help, Karen-- Soronel Haetir soronel.haetir@xxxxxxxxx -- JFW related links: JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/ Scripting mailing list: http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com JFW List instructions: To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message tojfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw Alternative archives located at: http://n2.nabble.com/JAWS-for-Windows-f2145279.htmlIf you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, orthe way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. 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