RE: In using Insert F 7, why can't we use Save Target As?

  • From: "jim grimsby" <jimgrims@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 20:32:34 -0800

Hi, yes but there are other options that you can access by right
clicking on the link or getting the context menu for the link.  Here is
an example. =20
Lets say you are reading a manual.  Now they give you a link that says
for more information see and then they give you a link to another page.
So you want to open this in a new window look at it and then go on with
your reading of the other document.  So you right click on the link
select open in new window and read the page and then go back to your
first document. =20
Another example is lets say you have a item that would normally open in
internet explorer or play in a helper program but you want to save it to
disk.  So you right click on the link in question and select save target
as.  Just a few examples of other things you can do.  This all started
when an idea was presented to have a save target as button to the links
list dialog where as I said a properties button should be added to the
links list dialog. =20
Hth=20

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Yardbird
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 7:07 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: In using Insert F 7, why can't we use Save Target As?


But most of the things I ever download, you click on the link, then a=20
dialogue opens where you confirm that you want to download
something,then=20
check the target path and filename and/or change it to your liking, then

click on Save.  All this begins with a simple click on the link, takes
only=20
a few seconds, and I don't spend all my time downloading programs.
Maybe if=20
I were constantly downloading program files, I'd understand this=20
differently?  But as it is, it's just a now and then thing, and I've
always=20
thought this was the ordinary Windows way of doing it, and never felt it
a=20
particular burden.

Am I not understanding this?  For instance, when I come upon a link for
some=20
small application on the programs page of the JFW Lite Web site, and
click=20
on it to go through the steps described above, is this considered a slow
and=20
inefficient method compared to right clicking on them and using the save

target method?  Is this what you mean?

Thanks for everything,
Daniel
----- Original Message -----=20
From: "Keith Gillard" <kgillard@xxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 6:51 PM
Subject: Re: In using Insert F 7, why can't we use Save Target As?


Download links.
----- Original Message -----=20
From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 6:54 PM
Subject: Re: In using Insert F 7, why can't we use Save Target As?


> hi,
> What types of links are you guys talking about that you say often=20
> require being saved as targets rather than just being plain old=20
> clicked on and opened?  I'm having trouble understanding what kind of=20
> scenario this has to do with.
>
> In my own experience, most of the links I use on the Web only need to=20
> be clicked on by hitting enter.  A person using the  mouse would just=20
> left click on them, not right click and then save target as.
>
> I'm not arguing, just asking what you mean.  To be more clear about my

> own experience, nearly all of what I do on the web is search out=20
> things like journal articles and simply open them to read.  Now and=20
> then, there's a program file to download, which again just requires a=20
> normal enter to activate.  The only experience I have with the save as

> method is some online .pdf files which I've learned sometimes are=20
> handier to save to disk and then
> keep off line so as to simply have them on hand whenever I want to
read
> something in them again, without Web surfing to gget back to them.
>
> Now and then, I save a newspaper article to disc by clicking on its=20
> printer friendly version link for a clean page without graphics and=20
> global navigation links, , then doing a save as from the IE Files=20
> menu, typing in a
> path and filename, and that's that.  Which doesn't even involve the
save
> target as function I think you're talking about.
>
> Am I missing some whole category of online thing that needs to be=20
> saved as a target?
>
> Thanks for clarifying,
> Daniel
> ed.except for the occasional file
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <ptusing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 5:42 PM
> Subject: Re: In using Insert F 7, why can't we use Save Target As?
>
>
> Roy,
> Your method does work but it adds a step.
> Right clicking once one" moves to the link" using Insert F 7  does not
> directly bring up the Save as Target menu but does provide another
link
> to
> activate with Save as Target.
> I think it would be so much more direct  to be able to go straight to=20
> Save as  Target since  that is now required so often  acknowledging=20
> that your way doeswork.
>
> that is my opinion.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Roy Nickelson" <roylee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 8:26 PM
> Subject: Re: In using Insert F 7, why can't we use Save Target As?
>
>
>> hi,
>> because enter is mostly what you need to do the easy solution is use=20
>> the moove to link button and with the virtual cursor active press the

>> right mouse button (numpad *). Roy
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <ptusing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 8:20 PM
>> Subject: In using Insert F 7, why can't we use Save Target As?
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>> Bruce, I was thinking of what you wrote about innovations in JAWS
and
>> wonder why we are  restricted to using  left  click (Enter)   on a
link
>> using insert F 7 when often it is easier with Service Pack 2 to use=20
>> "Save Target As" to  download. Have a  fine week end.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Bruce Toews" <water_drinker@xxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 8:07 PM
>> Subject: Re: Forms
>>
>>
>>> The irony is that with many of these forms, the competition has=20
>>> little or no  trouble with them, so one would think that FS should=20
>>> be able to offer
>>> the same reliability.
>>>
>>> Bruce
>>>
>>> --
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>>> E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: water_drinker@xxxxxxxx
>>> Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries):
http://www.ogts.net
>>> Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
>>>
>>> On Fri, 1 Apr 2005, Keith H wrote:
>>>
>>>>> From personal experience filling out many on line forms, I find=20
>>>>> that it is
>>>> necessary to keep hitting the num pad + to switch back to the=20
>>>> PC/Virtual cursor to exit forms mode and navigate around a bit=20
>>>> since form labels aren't
>>>> always in a place where jaws can find them well.
>>>>
>>>> Then go back into forms mode to keep filling out the form. It is=20
>>>> kind of nice that in newer versions of jaws the check boxes and=20
>>>> radio buttons in
>>>> forms just need a tap on the space bar to toggle them and you don't
>>>> have
>>>> to
>>>> go into forms mode at all.
>>>>
>>>> from
>>>> Keith h
>>>>
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