Re: ITunes

  • From: "Nickus de Vos" <bigboy529@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 09:08:23 +0200

Listen to the 2 fs casts you wil learn a lot, the store is a little weird but 
it is accessible once you know how, i can explain everything but think it's 
better if you listen to the 2 podcasts. 
-original message-
Subject: Re: ITunes
From: "Farfar Carlson" <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 07/02/2011 04:30

I couldn't figure out the store, either. But since it would start costing me 
money if I succeeded, I figured it was just as well to not work too hard to 
figure it out.

I think the store interface is extremely JAWS-unfriendly.

Dave
Composed on a Dell Latitude 630 in the general vicinity of my Audio 
Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brandon Keith (Biggs)" <brandonboy13@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2011 17:43
Subject: Re: ITunes


Hello,
So I just installed ITunes and made an account, but I can't seem to find the
store anywhere.
I have the ITunes store selected in the combo box, and typed in my search
terms, but tabbing around I don't see any place to look at song names or
artist names.
Do I need to search then select a style? Or how do I read the store!
Thank you,

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From: "Yadiel Sotomayor" <yadosotomayor@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 7:00 PM
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Itunes

> Point well taken. I downloaded winamp and used it for a while. It works
> very well with jaws and it is a very full media player. But frankly,
> didn't like it a bit. Its just another good program that I won't use. lol.
> But like I said, I like my music mobile. I don't listen to music on my
> computer that often. I mostly use my iPod to listen to all of my media.
> Also, on iTunes you can ask it to put all of your music and movies on one
> folder on whatever place you want. So you can have everything under your
> finger sort of speak. But like I said, each to its own. I am just pointing
> out that iTunes is very accessible with jaws and just because the
> interface is not what you will expect from a windows program it doesn't
> mean it won't work. One thing you need to rememeber is that iTunes is made
> by apple, and if you had the chance to play around with a MAC recently you
> will know that Apple is totally different from windows in all aspects.
>
> Yadiel
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "JM Casey" <crystallogic@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 10:07 PM
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Itunes
>
>> It's not that the software is complicated...it's just stupid, in my view.
>> Anyway, that was certainly a well considered reply and I hope users of
>> ITunes such as yourself are making useful and worthy suggestions to Apple
>> as to how they can improve their products, in terms of accessibility and
>> otherwise. It's mostly the "otherwise" stuff that I have issue with,
>> which makes me abhore Apple and their ideas, so I guess this is best left
>> off the list anyway.
>> I've found Winamp to be the most robust, adaptable, useful and quick
>> media software. I don't want my media player to download anything or be
>> responsible for anything other than playing media. I like my programmes
>> to be self-contained...seems a lot less problematic that way and perhaps
>> even Freedom Scientific could learn from this example, as others on the
>> list were theorising recently. I also appreciate programmes that adhere
>> to the standard windows folder system for storage and categorisation and
>> don't try to dictate how I should organise my collection. I definitely
>> don't appreciate how my dad can't even send me a gift of a song without
>> me downloading Apple's programme, when compression algorithms should be
>> open to all and there's no reason at all for Apple to use some
>> proprietary format/protection scheme...but that's just their way, hence I
>> will never buy or support this company in any form.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Yadiel Sotomayor" <yadosotomayor@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 7:30 PM
>> Subject: Re: Itunes
>>
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>> People, it seems that we all have very different experiences on iTunes
>> with
>> jaws. Frankly, I use an iPod and I am in the process of getting a iPhone
>> 4G.
>> So, on that regard I have no other "legal" choice. Sure, I can jailbreak
>> my
>> IOS device which is not technically illegal to use it with other program,
>> but I found that doing so damages the device.
>>
>> I have used windows media player, real media player and winamp and I find
>> them very complicated, very loaded, or they don't have enough features
>> respectively.  iTunes is in my homble opinion one of the best media
>> players
>> around. Sure, somethings can and they most be improved, but comparing
>> with
>> just a couple of years ago the program is very accessible.
>>
>> I also like to have things mobile and since the iPod touch has build in
>> accessibility, what better choice for a mobile media player.
>>
>> People say that boththe interface of iTunes and its companions, iPod,
>> iPhone
>> and iPad are very complicated, but I have found that first, people don't
>> read the manual or they don't put the enough effort to learn a new way of
>> doing things. Since they don't do what I just said, they say that is
>> compolicated, hard to use or inaccessible.
>>
>>
>> Now, there are some people that do the effort to learn something new.
>> They
>> try the product and they still don't like it. Well then, good for you.
>> Programs and interfaces are not made one size fits all, but one size fits
>> most. If you don't like it, there are better options out there.
>>
>>
>> My messege from all this ranting is first, try it. Second, read the
>> manual
>> and third, expect changes for good or for worse. But keep trying, you may
>> learn something. Besides, most programs have a "send suggestions" page or
>> e-mail. Send them a suggestion. Maybe for a future release they may
>> implement it.
>>
>>
>> Sorry for all this ranting.
>>
>> Yadiel
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "JM Casey" <crystallogic@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 6:57 PM
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: Re: Itunes
>>
>>> Even lots of sighted people think the interface is crap, and I blame
>>> that
>>> programme for permanently screwing up my father's ideas about how his
>>> PC's
>>> file system works. Good luck finding alternatives if you're using an
>>> IDevice to play music...I'm sure some google searches will yield
>>> positive
>>> results.
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Alan Dicey" <adicey@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 4:15 PM
>>> Subject: Itunes
>>>
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>>> Dear Friends,
>>> Well, I have to add my 2 cents.
>>> I could not use "Itunes" with JAWS 11, latest build and my XP machine.
>>> And even after having 2 sighted fairly computer technically inclined
>>> people
>>> try to help me on two separate occasions, I still could not use it, to
>>> put
>>> some music on this Itunes "Shuffle", and either could they!
>>>
>>> So My Hats off to those using the thing!
>>> Yes, I salute you!
>>>
>>> With Best Regards,
>>> Alan
>>> Miami, Florida
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: <crystallogic@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 3:57 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Itunes
>>>
>>>
>>>> Happy Winamp user here. Every time I look at Itunes I throw my hands
>>>> up
>>>> in utter bewilderment. Everything about the programme goes against
>>>> what
>>>> I
>>>> believe a good experience with a PC should be like. haha
>>>> If winamp ever leaves me unsatisfied, there are a few other players
>>>> that
>>>> I'd try. Does anyone have experience using Fubar with JAWS?  What's it
>>>> like?
>>>>
>>>> Quoting John Martyn <johnrobertmartyn@xxxxxxxxx>:
>>>>
>>>>> iTunes is slow to start and lags even without jaws. But I suppose a
>>>>> music addict with 20,000 songs can't complain. iTunes is what I use
>>>>> for
>>>>> my library. I just get the new music from Rhapsody.
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yadiel Sotomayor"
>>>>> <yadosotomayor@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 9:02 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: Itunes
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> 20,000 songs!!!!!!!!!! Man! Now that's a lot!!! I only have 9,000.
>>>>>> Maybe that is it. I suggest if you can upgrade your RAM to 3 or 4
>>>>>> GB.
>>>>>> It will improve iTunes with jaws. And it will improve your
>>>>>> computting
>>>>>> experience overall.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yadiel
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> From: "Nickus de Vos" <bigboy529@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 12:00 PM
>>>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Itunes
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I love it so far it's just a bit slow or actually jaws is a bit
>>>>>>> slow,
>>>>>>> maybe it's because i have over 20,000 songs and i only 2 gb  ram,
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> thanks i already listened to the podcast and i've lerned  a lot.
>>>>>>> -original message-
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Itunes
>>>>>>> From: "Yadiel Sotomayor" <yadosotomayor@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> Date: 06/01/2011 16:45
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> iTunes is not a pain. I use it dailly. In fact, I am using it right
>>>>>>> now.
>>>>>>> Here, this is a link for a 2 part tutorial on iTunes. The second
>>>>>>> part
>>>>>>> comes
>>>>>>> out this month so keep an eye open.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.freedomscientific.com/FSCast/default.asp
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A list of different podcast will appear. Select the december 2010
>>>>>>> episode. I
>>>>>>> believe it is episode 49. Listen to it. You will learn a lot.  Don't
>>>>>>> dispair!
>>>>>>> Once you learn to use iTunes you will like it. Also, if you plan to
>>>>>>> use
>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>> buy an iPod, iPhone or iPad (or any combination of those devices)
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>> need iTunes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> HTH
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yadiel
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>> From: "JM Casey" <crystallogic@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 9:35 PM
>>>>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Itunes
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hell....this programme is such a pain; wish I understood why people
>>>>>>>> still
>>>>>>>> bothered.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sorry for the irrelevant post; must be triggerhappy today.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yadiel Sotomayor"
>>>>>>>> <yadosotomayor@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 6:22 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Itunes
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>>>>>>>> you are not the only one. But, I suggest you take out any and all
>>>>>>>> non
>>>>>>>> essential icons. e.g. if you don't use tv shows, take it out. I
>>>>>>>> also
>>>>>>>> suggest you maintain all itunes media on the itunes folder. Not on
>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>> usual music folder. iTunes needs to check every tag and it slows
>>>>>>>> thing
>>>>>>>> down.
>>>>>>>> For example, I have all of my music on one folder on my external
>>>>>>>> hardrive,
>>>>>>>> and I also have there my movies. so it doesn't matter what happens,
>>>>>>>> itunes
>>>>>>>> only has 1 place to look and download material. other than that I
>>>>>>>> suggest
>>>>>>>> you double the minimum requirements. for example, if itunes needs 1
>>>>>>>> GB
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> ram to play music, bring it up to 2 or 3. that way itunes will have
>>>>>>>> almost
>>>>>>>> unlimited ram to do whatever it wants.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>> From: "Nickus de Vos" <bigboy529@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 5:52 PM
>>>>>>>> To: "Jaws" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>> Subject: Itunes
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi all i'm new to this list, new to jfw and new to itunes. I run
>>>>>>>>> jfw
>>>>>>>>> 11
>>>>>>>>> and recently installed itunes 10, since then i've realised that
>>>>>>>>> jaws
>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> slow to respond when i press something. This aspecially happens
>>>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>>>> i'm
>>>>>>>>> navigating around in itunes and sometimes it.'s even slower to
>>>>>>>>> respond
>>>>>>>>> than others. Is this normal or can i do something to fix it?
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